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Re: Direct touch and flick type

Harry Bell
 

I use standard typing and FlickType works fine with that too
Harry

On 23 Sep 2020, at 04:41, Alan Lemly <@walemly> wrote:

I have my typing style set to touch typing and have always had it set that way and haven't experienced any issues when using FlickType. I don't remember direct touch typing ever being a requirement for FlickType.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io [mailto:hello@flicktype.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:42 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

Actually it's strange, I don't have to turn direct touch on each time I use flick type, but I do for Vorail. I wonder if this is something that Apple is going to have to change on their end?
On 9/22/2020 9:39 PM, Peter Torpey wrote:
Yes, same problem here. Direct Touch seems to get set to "off" when Flicktype is invoked under iOS 14. Even if you turn it "on", the next time you try to use Flicktype it will be turned "off" again automatically. Fortunately the workaround is easy, but hopefully this can be fixed in the app.

--Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:29 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but flick type wasn't responding earlier. I finally figured out why. I had to find direct touch in the rotor and turn it on. It somehow got turned off. Direct touch has been around for a long time, but it's more persistent in IOS 14. So if the keyboard isn't working as it should find direct touch in the rotor and flick up or down to turn it on.




















Re: Direct touch and flick type

Gordon
 

You're not going to find it in rotor settings. It only comes up in certain circumstances. And when it does come up, it will appear in the rotor where you can turn it on or off. I was a bit surprised to see it come up with flick type because the keyboard isn't a self voicing app. Direct touch will come up most likely if you're playing a game which is self voicing and doesn't use voice over as a screen reader. It's supposed to serve as a way to temporarily ignore voice over as if you turned it off while interacting with an app.

On 9/23/2020 12:32 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
Okay. Can you direct me where exactly I find direct touch in the iOS 14 settings? You mention something about setting it in the rotor but I went through all the Voiceover rotor items and saw nothing about direct touch.

Thanks.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io [mailto:hello@flicktype.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

No this is direct touch and has nothing to do with typing. Direct touch is used a lot in self voicing gaming apps and other areas where voice over wont be handling commands and passes those through to the app.

On 9/22/2020 10:41 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
I have my typing style set to touch typing and have always had it set that way and haven't experienced any issues when using FlickType. I don't remember direct touch typing ever being a requirement for FlickType.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io [mailto:hello@flicktype.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:42 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

Actually it's strange, I don't have to turn direct touch on each time I use flick type, but I do for Vorail. I wonder if this is something that Apple is going to have to change on their end?
On 9/22/2020 9:39 PM, Peter Torpey wrote:
Yes, same problem here. Direct Touch seems to get set to "off" when Flicktype is invoked under iOS 14. Even if you turn it "on", the next time you try to use Flicktype it will be turned "off" again automatically. Fortunately the workaround is easy, but hopefully this can be fixed in the app.

--Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:29 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but flick type wasn't responding earlier. I finally figured out why. I had to find direct touch in the rotor and turn it on. It somehow got turned off. Direct touch has been around for a long time, but it's more persistent in IOS 14. So if the keyboard isn't working as it should find direct touch in the rotor and flick up or down to turn it on.
























Re: Direct touch and flick type

 

Okay. Can you direct me where exactly I find direct touch in the iOS 14 settings? You mention something about setting it in the rotor but I went through all the Voiceover rotor items and saw nothing about direct touch.

Thanks.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io [mailto:hello@flicktype.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

No this is direct touch and has nothing to do with typing. Direct touch is used a lot in self voicing gaming apps and other areas where voice over wont be handling commands and passes those through to the app.

On 9/22/2020 10:41 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
I have my typing style set to touch typing and have always had it set that way and haven't experienced any issues when using FlickType. I don't remember direct touch typing ever being a requirement for FlickType.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io [mailto:hello@flicktype.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:42 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

Actually it's strange, I don't have to turn direct touch on each time I use flick type, but I do for Vorail. I wonder if this is something that Apple is going to have to change on their end?
On 9/22/2020 9:39 PM, Peter Torpey wrote:
Yes, same problem here. Direct Touch seems to get set to "off" when Flicktype is invoked under iOS 14. Even if you turn it "on", the next time you try to use Flicktype it will be turned "off" again automatically. Fortunately the workaround is easy, but hopefully this can be fixed in the app.

--Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:29 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but flick type wasn't responding earlier. I finally figured out why. I had to find direct touch in the rotor and turn it on. It somehow got turned off. Direct touch has been around for a long time, but it's more persistent in IOS 14. So if the keyboard isn't working as it should find direct touch in the rotor and flick up or down to turn it on.



















Re: Direct touch and flick type

Gordon
 

No this is direct touch and has nothing to do with typing. Direct touch is used a lot in self voicing gaming apps and other areas where voice over wont be handling commands and passes those through to the app.

On 9/22/2020 10:41 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
I have my typing style set to touch typing and have always had it set that way and haven't experienced any issues when using FlickType. I don't remember direct touch typing ever being a requirement for FlickType.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io [mailto:hello@flicktype.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:42 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

Actually it's strange, I don't have to turn direct touch on each time I use flick type, but I do for Vorail. I wonder if this is something that Apple is going to have to change on their end?
On 9/22/2020 9:39 PM, Peter Torpey wrote:
Yes, same problem here. Direct Touch seems to get set to "off" when Flicktype is invoked under iOS 14. Even if you turn it "on", the next time you try to use Flicktype it will be turned "off" again automatically. Fortunately the workaround is easy, but hopefully this can be fixed in the app.

--Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:29 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but flick type wasn't responding earlier. I finally figured out why. I had to find direct touch in the rotor and turn it on. It somehow got turned off. Direct touch has been around for a long time, but it's more persistent in IOS 14. So if the keyboard isn't working as it should find direct touch in the rotor and flick up or down to turn it on.


















Re: Direct touch and flick type

 

I have my typing style set to touch typing and have always had it set that way and haven't experienced any issues when using FlickType. I don't remember direct touch typing ever being a requirement for FlickType.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io [mailto:hello@flicktype.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:42 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

Actually it's strange, I don't have to turn direct touch on each time I use flick type, but I do for Vorail. I wonder if this is something that Apple is going to have to change on their end?
On 9/22/2020 9:39 PM, Peter Torpey wrote:
Yes, same problem here. Direct Touch seems to get set to "off" when Flicktype is invoked under iOS 14. Even if you turn it "on", the next time you try to use Flicktype it will be turned "off" again automatically. Fortunately the workaround is easy, but hopefully this can be fixed in the app.

--Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:29 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but flick type wasn't responding earlier. I finally figured out why. I had to find direct touch in the rotor and turn it on. It somehow got turned off. Direct touch has been around for a long time, but it's more persistent in IOS 14. So if the keyboard isn't working as it should find direct touch in the rotor and flick up or down to turn it on.












Re: Direct touch and flick type

Gordon
 

Actually it's strange, I don't have to turn direct touch on each time I use flick type, but I do for Vorail. I wonder if this is something that Apple is going to have to change on their end?

On 9/22/2020 9:39 PM, Peter Torpey wrote:
Yes, same problem here. Direct Touch seems to get set to "off" when Flicktype is invoked under iOS 14. Even if you turn it "on", the next time you try to use Flicktype it will be turned "off" again automatically. Fortunately the workaround is easy, but hopefully this can be fixed in the app.

--Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:29 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but flick type wasn't responding earlier. I finally figured out why. I had to find direct touch in the rotor and turn it on. It somehow got turned off. Direct touch has been around for a long time, but it's more persistent in IOS 14. So if the keyboard isn't working as it should find direct touch in the rotor and flick up or down to turn it on.











Re: Direct touch and flick type

Peter Torpey
 

Yes, same problem here. Direct Touch seems to get set to "off" when Flicktype is invoked under iOS 14. Even if you turn it "on", the next time you try to use Flicktype it will be turned "off" again automatically. Fortunately the workaround is easy, but hopefully this can be fixed in the app.

--Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:29 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: [FlickType] Direct touch and flick type

I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but flick type wasn't responding earlier. I finally figured out why. I had to find direct touch in the rotor and turn it on. It somehow got turned off. Direct touch has been around for a long time, but it's more persistent in IOS 14. So if the keyboard isn't working as it should find direct touch in the rotor and flick up or down to turn it on.


Direct touch and flick type

Gordon
 

I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but flick type wasn't responding earlier. I finally figured out why. I had to find direct touch in the rotor and turn it on. It somehow got turned off. Direct touch has been around for a long time, but it's more persistent in IOS 14. So if the keyboard isn't working as it should find direct touch in the rotor and flick up or down to turn it on.


Re: Flicktype on watch

Chris Chaffin
 

Hi Kosta,

No, , am unable to tap on words. I tried doing the word, top, and it said, tip. So I scrolled the crown down and it just said the same thing, flicktype, use digital crown to scroll through suggestions. Since the crown did give me the haptic feedback like it did scroll down, I tapped on the screen like I was choosing the word it scrolled to, but nothing happened. It just acted like I was trying to type another word.

I am unable to access the rotor because the rotor is only available on the new watch os 7. I do not think you can install that unless you are running ios 14 on your phone, and because of multiple bugs, I am not doing that at this time.

Thanks for looking into this issue for me!

Chris

On Sep 20, 2020, at 9:57 PM, FlickType <@FlickType> wrote:

Thank you for the clarification, Chris.

When you try to tap words, does that work, or do you also keep hearing VoiceOver announcing “FlickType”?

If so, try to invoke the rotor while FlickType is on the screen, and turn on “Direct Touch”.

Let me know if that helped!

- Kosta





Re: Flicktype on watch

Peter Torpey
 

For me, on the iPhone this behavior started occurring in iOS 14. The rotor seems to get automatically put to "Touch typing = Off" when Flicktype is invoked. I believe Flicktype only works with touch typing set to "On". At least the workaround is simple, just change that setting on the rotor. Unfortunately, next time you come back to type, the rotor will again be automatically set to touch Typing = off again.

--Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 8:01 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Flicktype on watch

Hi,

I've also experienced this issue.
I can't get the rotor to work consistently.
Can anyone give me tips for making it work better?
It wont stay where I need it to.

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of FlickType
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:57 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Flicktype on watch

Thank you for the clarification, Chris.

When you try to tap words, does that work, or do you also keep hearing VoiceOver announcing “FlickType”?

If so, try to invoke the rotor while FlickType is on the screen, and turn on “Direct Touch”.

Let me know if that helped!

- Kosta


Re: Flicktype on watch

Jessica D
 

Hi,

I've also experienced this issue.
I can't get the rotor to work consistently.
Can anyone give me tips for making it work better?
It wont stay where I need it to.

Thanks,

Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of FlickType
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:57 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Flicktype on watch

Thank you for the clarification, Chris.

When you try to tap words, does that work, or do you also keep hearing VoiceOver announcing “FlickType”?

If so, try to invoke the rotor while FlickType is on the screen, and turn on “Direct Touch”.

Let me know if that helped!

- Kosta


Re: Flicktype on watch

 

Thank you for the clarification, Chris.

When you try to tap words, does that work, or do you also keep hearing VoiceOver announcing “FlickType”?

If so, try to invoke the rotor while FlickType is on the screen, and turn on “Direct Touch”.

Let me know if that helped!

- Kosta


iOS 14 issue when sharing News articles

Peter Torpey
 

I have run into this issue a few times when sharing a News article via e-mail and thought you might want to look into it. I am using iOS 14 on an iPhone XR with Voiceover.

Problem: When I try to share a News article via e-mail, Touch typing seems to be automatically set to "off" and FlickType can't be used

Steps to reproduce:
1. Open a News article from the Apple News app.
2. Perform a single finger double tap to activate the "Share" button at the top of the article.
3. Select to share via e-mail by performing a single finger double tap on the "E-Mail" button.
4. Perform a single finger double tap in the "To:" field of the email header to activate this edit field.
5. touch the active area of the Flicktype keyboard to activate Flicktype.
6. Now move your finger around the screen to try and find the first letter to type. Note: VoiceOver does not speak anything.
7. Raise your finger and touch the keyboard area again. Note: VoiceOver speaks "Flicktype keyboard" as if you are first activating the keyboard in order to start typing.
8. Use the two finger VoiceOver rotor action to go to the "Touch Typing" item.
9. Flick down with one finger and VoiceOver speaks "On" indicating that Touch Typing is now "On". Presumably it was set to "Off" before.
10. Now that Touch Typing is definitely turned "On", Cancel the sending of this message and follow steps #1- 9 again and you will observe the same result, i.e., Touch Typing is "Off" again even though it was set to "On".

Hope that is clear and helps you track down the issue.

BTW, Flicktype has been working very well on my phone these days. It has definitely improved since its earlier days on the app store. Thanks.

--Pete


Re: Flicktype on watch

Chris Chaffin
 

Hi Kosta,

Thanks for getting back to me!

I am running watch os 6.21.

When I try to scroll by using the crown, I do get the haptic feedback, but nothing else really happens. Voice over just says, FlickType, Scroll by using the crown.

So I am also not able to select different punctuation or emoji's since scrolling the crown is not working for me.

I am hoping you are able to figure it out.

Thanks for the help.

Chris

On Sep 20, 2020, at 4:25 PM, FlickType <@FlickType> wrote:

Hi Chris,

You can’t access numbers just yet, but for emojis you can do that the usual way by flicking right to insert a period, and then changing that to one of your favorite emojis.

What happens when you try to scroll through words with the crown? And what watchOS version are you using?

I’d love to track this down and figure out a solution for you.

- Kosta






Re: Flicktype on watch

 

Hi Chris,

You can’t access numbers just yet, but for emojis you can do that the usual way by flicking right to insert a period, and then changing that to one of your favorite emojis.

What happens when you try to scroll through words with the crown? And what watchOS version are you using?

I’d love to track this down and figure out a solution for you.

- Kosta


Flicktype on watch

Chris Chaffin
 

Is anyone currently using flicktype on their Apple Watch? If so, I have a couple of questions.

I am currently not able to scroll through word choices with the crown, and how do you get to where you can type numbers and emojis?

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Chris


Re: Caps lock

 

I miss the ability to hard press in order to capitalize with FlickType. That ability went away when I got my iPhone SE 2020. It would be nice if FlickType had a gesture to turn on caps lock but I don't use this very often so I can manage with the 2-finger tap to capitalize each entered letter.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io [mailto:hello@flicktype.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 12:20 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Caps lock

 

Hello Leonard,

No, not to my knowledge. I have wondered this myself, but generally speaking if I’m having to type a lot of capital letters I use the hard press on my iPhone 8.

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 



On Sep 4, 2020, at 1:15 AM, leonard morris <lmorris1953@...> wrote:

Is there a gesture to do a caps lock so you don’t have to keep doing a two finger tap every time you want to capitalize a letter? Thank you.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.


Re: Caps lock

Chuck Dean
 

Hello Leonard,
No, not to my knowledge. I have wondered this myself, but generally speaking if I’m having to type a lot of capital letters I use the hard press on my iPhone 8.

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Sep 4, 2020, at 1:15 AM, leonard morris <lmorris1953@...> wrote:

Is there a gesture to do a caps lock so you don’t have to keep doing a two finger tap every time you want to capitalize a letter? Thank you.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.


Caps lock

leonard morris
 

Is there a gesture to do a caps lock so you don’t have to keep doing a two finger tap every time you want to capitalize a letter? Thank you.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.


Re: Short cuts

leonard morris
 

Good information greatly appreciate it thank you

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

On Aug 26, 2020, at 9:09 AM, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:

Simply type the shortcut with the flicktype keyboard and then flick down until you hear your shortcut, and then flick right.

Note: shortcuts do not work inside the Fliktype container app. This is due to an Apple iOS limitation.
They should work in any other app.               

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Aug 25, 2020, at 6:02 PM, leonard morris <lmorris1953@...> wrote:

I have several replacement shortcuts. For example, eml is my shortcut to input my email address. What do I need to do to bake this work correctly? 

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.