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Re: Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Shawn Krasniuk
 

I doubt Kosta will bring back Flicktype, which is why I'm trying other methods of typing like braille screen input. I've basically gotten the hang of it although I don't like how I have to select it in my rotor. When I used to use Flicktype before I installed the iOS 15 beta, I liked how the keyboard just pops up and I didn't have to do anything to invoke it. But now seeing as how I'm on iOS 15 and can't go back to iOS 14 without putting my phone into DFU mode and installing a backup of 14 from my Mac which I don't have, I'm learning to adapt. I'm actually thinking about giving MBraille a try when I have the money because I hear it'll let you use the keyboard in third party apps without turning to it in the rotor. I'm hoping it's as easy as BSI to use.

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On Sep 16, 2021, at 6:19 PM, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee134@...> wrote:

Use direct touch for long words and slide to type for shorter ones. This way, auto correct is pretty accurate for fixing shorter and slide to type, normally gets longer words right with me.of course your milage may vary. 

On 16 Sep 2021, at 23:50, Gina Grunden <runemagick115@...> wrote:



I quite like the Direct Touch type myself. I’ve not played with Slide to Type however.

 

 

Gina

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:29 AM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 



Hi all 

 

There are always the  direct touch typing and slide to type. Combined these together, and typing on the iPhone isn't bad. Of coarse the experience is nothing compared to FlickType but anything is better than nothing. Plus the original Fleksy is still around in the App Store.

 

  



On 16 Sep 2021, at 03:03, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Thanks for confirming my understanding of the inability to port apps to another device when they are no longer available in the App Store. I suspect we won’t have any luck convincing Kosta to put anything in the App Store since I believe he is suing Apple over their latest series 7 watch keyboard. But I tend to be a glass half empty sort of guy regarding such things.

 

At any rate, I’m beginning to try other on screen keyboard typing methods since I realize that my days with FlickType are numbered. I downloaded Microsoft SwiftKey today and will give it a try. It was hard in the past when trying slide to type and other keyboard features since they all paled in comparison to FlickType but my perspective has now changed.

 

Alan

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 6:24 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, 

Out of  curiosity I erased an old iPhone 6S and tried to download FlickType from the clout, and also from my old Mac. Unfortunately, you are right, it could not download any app that is no longer in the app store. ️  

It looks like our days of FlickType typing are numbered... Unless we can convince Kosta to put FlickType classic beck in the app store., if it works with iOS 15. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 




On Sep 15, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Eileen,

 

I just updated my SE 2020 to iOS 14.8 and am happy to report that my flicktype keyboard is still working just fine. I don't believe that will be the case with iOS 15 so I will be in no hurry to upgrade to it.

 

A few years back, you could use iTunes to download apps to your local computer and carry them forward to a new device. However, Apple changed that approach as they moved more to cloud based orientation and now all apps transferred to a new device must come from the App Store. The names of your installed apps do transfer to the new device as do their installed screen locations but the app itself must download from the App Store and if it's no longer there, you're out of luck. I experienced this with a money reader app that I had on an old device that was no longer in the App Store when I upgraded to my iPhone SE 2020 so that app is no longer on my device.

 

Alan 

 

with Outlook for iOS


From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misrahi@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:58:32 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hi Alan and All,

I’m using a 6S, with 14.8. I have been able to use FlickType in FB to post on a time line and in the Message app to send a text message. I believe you are correct Alan that the apps are stored in the cloud and not in iTunes. At one point, I thought you could setup a new iPhone from the old one,  but I’m not 100% sure about that.

Best,
Eileen








Re: Punctuation Voiceover hints needed and Direct Touch question was RE: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Luke,

I meant having Voiceover speak the character while sliding over the letters
while using slide to type. I believe the slide to type delay set only
affects the delay before slide to type is activated when resting your finger
on a key. I don't believe slide to type is currently designed to provide any
audio feedback while your finger is sliding among the characters in the
words being typed.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Luke Davis
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 10:25 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: Punctuation Voiceover hints needed and Direct Touch question
was RE: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Alan Lemly wrote:

possible to have a setting that would allow VoiceOver to quickly speak
each letter as your finger is sliding over it that would enable those of
us using our ears to stop on the correct letter before moving to the next
one.

Isn't that what touch typing already does?
Or do you mean to have that, along with the slide to type word completion?

If so, you might be able to achieve something like it with a long enough
slide to type delay set.

Luke


Re: Punctuation Voiceover hints needed and Direct Touch question was RE: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Luke Davis
 

Alan Lemly wrote:

possible to have a setting that would allow VoiceOver to quickly speak each letter as your finger is sliding over it that would enable those of us using our
ears to stop on the correct letter before moving to the next one.
Isn't that what touch typing already does?
Or do you mean to have that, along with the slide to type word completion?

If so, you might be able to achieve something like it with a long enough slide to type delay set.

Luke


Re: Punctuation Voiceover hints needed and Direct Touch question was RE: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Chuck Dean
 

Hello Ellen,
I believe that slide type is a little bit like Fliktype, we are only supposed to approximate the letter, and then move to the next one. My experience is that once you select the first letter and you get the pass-through sound, then you can quickly move to the general area where the other letters are, and you will hear suggestions of what word it things you are trying to type.
I’ve been trying to slide type a little bit, and I think with some extra practice, it might be usable. Go

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Sep 18, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:


Luke,

Thanks so much for the additional details about your direct touch experience. I'm impressed with your error rate while using direct touch. I don't believe I'd ever only make 11 errors when direct touching a 60 plus character sentence. It's encouraging to learn that others are successfully using direct touch so I'll keep a positive attitude about it and keep practicing with what is available. I especially intend to practice slide to type. I really wish it were possible to have a setting that would allow VoiceOver to quickly speak each letter as your finger is sliding over it that would enable those of us using our ears to stop on the correct letter before moving to the next one. I expect this might be too difficult to implement or take more resources than currently available in these devices.

I very much appreciate your helpful replies and happy typing.

Alan Lemly 

with Outlook for iOS

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Luke Davis <newanswertech@...>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 11:15:27 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Punctuation Voiceover hints needed and Direct Touch question was RE: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?
 
Alan Lemly wrote:

> computer keyboard since 1981 and my iPhone since 2013 but if I get 10%
> of the letters correct when trying direct touch on my SE 2020, I'd be
> surprised.  I'd be interested to hear what sort of screen you're tapping
> on to tap the correct letter most of the time using direct touch without
> vision.  That sounds like some sort of miracle muscle memory which I
> don't have.

Alan, I didn't intend to suggest that I did. :)
I simply explained what direct touch typing was, and how it could be
effective. I did not mean to imply that I was effective with it.
In fact I usually use a combination of touch typing, dictation, and Flicktype.

However, for purposes of this response, I typed the following sentence:

This is a test of my ability to type on this touch keyboard.

Using direct touch typing on the same model phone that you are using.
I made 11 errors total, the 11th of which was because I thought I had
selected the punctuation keyboard to enter the closing period, but was
still on the letters keyboard so hit a Z instead. I probably wouldn't make
that mistake normally, so I consider myself to have made 10 realistic
errors.
13 words, 60 characters, and 10 errors, is an approximate 16.7% error
rate, or getting approximately 83.3% of the letters correct by your
measure.
That seems positive, but that much correction would be annoying in normal
use.

I then did the same sentence again, this time in touch typing mode, and
made only one error, in what felt like the same length of time.

My conclusion is that, for me, touch typing is better. While I could
probably get used to direct touch typing, and maybe even get better at it,
I'm glad I don't have to.

Luke







Re: Punctuation Voiceover hints needed and Direct Touch question was RE: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Luke,

Thanks so much for the additional details about your direct touch experience. I'm impressed with your error rate while using direct touch. I don't believe I'd ever only make 11 errors when direct touching a 60 plus character sentence. It's encouraging to learn that others are successfully using direct touch so I'll keep a positive attitude about it and keep practicing with what is available. I especially intend to practice slide to type. I really wish it were possible to have a setting that would allow VoiceOver to quickly speak each letter as your finger is sliding over it that would enable those of us using our ears to stop on the correct letter before moving to the next one. I expect this might be too difficult to implement or take more resources than currently available in these devices.

I very much appreciate your helpful replies and happy typing.

Alan Lemly 

with Outlook for iOS


From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Luke Davis <newanswertech@...>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 11:15:27 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Punctuation Voiceover hints needed and Direct Touch question was RE: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?
 
Alan Lemly wrote:

> computer keyboard since 1981 and my iPhone since 2013 but if I get 10%
> of the letters correct when trying direct touch on my SE 2020, I'd be
> surprised.  I'd be interested to hear what sort of screen you're tapping
> on to tap the correct letter most of the time using direct touch without
> vision.  That sounds like some sort of miracle muscle memory which I
> don't have.

Alan, I didn't intend to suggest that I did. :)
I simply explained what direct touch typing was, and how it could be
effective. I did not mean to imply that I was effective with it.
In fact I usually use a combination of touch typing, dictation, and Flicktype.

However, for purposes of this response, I typed the following sentence:

This is a test of my ability to type on this touch keyboard.

Using direct touch typing on the same model phone that you are using.
I made 11 errors total, the 11th of which was because I thought I had
selected the punctuation keyboard to enter the closing period, but was
still on the letters keyboard so hit a Z instead. I probably wouldn't make
that mistake normally, so I consider myself to have made 10 realistic
errors.
13 words, 60 characters, and 10 errors, is an approximate 16.7% error
rate, or getting approximately 83.3% of the letters correct by your
measure.
That seems positive, but that much correction would be annoying in normal
use.

I then did the same sentence again, this time in touch typing mode, and
made only one error, in what felt like the same length of time.

My conclusion is that, for me, touch typing is better. While I could
probably get used to direct touch typing, and maybe even get better at it,
I'm glad I don't have to.

Luke







Re: Punctuation Voiceover hints needed and Direct Touch question was RE: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Luke Davis
 

Alan Lemly wrote:

computer keyboard since 1981 and my iPhone since 2013 but if I get 10% of the letters correct when trying direct touch on my SE 2020, I'd be surprised. I'd be interested to hear what sort of screen you're tapping on to tap the correct letter most of the time using direct touch without vision. That sounds like some sort of miracle muscle memory which I don't have.
Alan, I didn't intend to suggest that I did. :)
I simply explained what direct touch typing was, and how it could be effective. I did not mean to imply that I was effective with it.
In fact I usually use a combination of touch typing, dictation, and Flicktype.

However, for purposes of this response, I typed the following sentence:

This is a test of my ability to type on this touch keyboard.

Using direct touch typing on the same model phone that you are using.
I made 11 errors total, the 11th of which was because I thought I had selected the punctuation keyboard to enter the closing period, but was still on the letters keyboard so hit a Z instead. I probably wouldn't make that mistake normally, so I consider myself to have made 10 realistic errors.
13 words, 60 characters, and 10 errors, is an approximate 16.7% error rate, or getting approximately 83.3% of the letters correct by your measure.
That seems positive, but that much correction would be annoying in normal use.

I then did the same sentence again, this time in touch typing mode, and made only one error, in what felt like the same length of time.

My conclusion is that, for me, touch typing is better. While I could probably get used to direct touch typing, and maybe even get better at it, I'm glad I don't have to.

Luke


Re: Punctuation Voiceover hints needed and Direct Touch question was RE: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Luke,

I expect if I could tap very quickly on the right letter using direct touch, I would never have had a need for FlickType. I've been using a computer keyboard since 1981 and my iPhone since 2013 but if I get 10% of the letters correct when trying direct touch on my SE 2020, I'd be surprised. I'd be interested to hear what sort of screen you're tapping on to tap the correct letter most of the time using direct touch without vision. That sounds like some sort of miracle muscle memory which I don't have.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 6:24 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: Punctuation Voiceover hints needed and Direct Touch question was RE: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

On Sep 16, Alan Lemly wrote:

I’m also curious how much vision those using the Direct Touch keyboard
setting have. Are you using Voiceover? My understanding of direct touch was that you had to tap on the correct letter to get good output.
Yes and know. Vision is not a factor.
You can tap very quickly on the right letter, and it will be typed.
However if you linger for an instant, it just identifies the letter without typing it.

So if you get the letter positions right the majority of the time, this can be a very efficient way of typing.
If you put your finger on the keyboard and move it around to find a letter and then lift it, the letter will not be typed. However if your position of lifting is accurate, you can tap once and will get that letter.
It is something of a hybrid of standard and touch typing.

It lives up to its name of "direct touch", since touching on a letter, then immediately lifting your finger, will result in the letter being typed. That is the same experience as a non-Voiceover user has, which is what direct touch areas are all about.
However, if your finger stays on the letter, slides to another one, or does anything other than immediately lift, no letter is typed and the letter is just announced.

It's easy enough to rotor to typing mode and give it a shot--it's worth trying.

Luke


Re: Punctuation Voiceover hints needed and Direct Touch question was RE: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Luke Davis
 

On Sep 16, Alan Lemly wrote:

I’m also curious how much vision those using the Direct Touch keyboard setting have. Are you using Voiceover? My understanding of direct touch was that you
had to tap on the correct letter to get good output.
Yes and know. Vision is not a factor.
You can tap very quickly on the right letter, and it will be typed. However if you linger for an instant, it just identifies the letter without typing it.

So if you get the letter positions right the majority of the time, this can be a very efficient way of typing.
If you put your finger on the keyboard and move it around to find a letter and then lift it, the letter will not be typed. However if your position of lifting is accurate, you can tap once and will get that letter.
It is something of a hybrid of standard and touch typing.

It lives up to its name of "direct touch", since touching on a letter, then immediately lifting your finger, will result in the letter being typed. That is the same experience as a non-Voiceover user has, which is what direct touch areas are all about.
However, if your finger stays on the letter, slides to another one, or does anything other than immediately lift, no letter is typed and the letter is just announced.

It's easy enough to rotor to typing mode and give it a shot--it's worth trying.

Luke


Punctuation Voiceover hints needed and Direct Touch question was RE: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

I’m curious what hints Voiceover users have for inputting punctuation without FlickType. Having to go to the numbers keyboard screen to access punctuation is not very efficient. Are there any keyboard settings which make punctuation input quicker?

 

I’m also curious how much vision those using the Direct Touch keyboard setting have. Are you using Voiceover? My understanding of direct touch was that you had to tap on the correct letter to get good output.

 

Finally, is there a way when using Slide to type also known as Quick path to have the letters spoken by Voiceover as you quickly slide your finger around the keyboard? I expect not since this is not really an accessibility setting.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 6:20 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Use direct touch for long words and slide to type for shorter ones. This way, auto correct is pretty accurate for fixing shorter and slide to type, normally gets longer words right with me.of course your milage may vary. 



On 16 Sep 2021, at 23:50, Gina Grunden <runemagick115@...> wrote:



I quite like the Direct Touch type myself. I’ve not played with Slide to Type however.

 

 

Gina

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:29 AM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 



Hi all 

 

There are always the  direct touch typing and slide to type. Combined these together, and typing on the iPhone isn't bad. Of coarse the experience is nothing compared to FlickType but anything is better than nothing. Plus the original Fleksy is still around in the App Store.

 

  




On 16 Sep 2021, at 03:03, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Thanks for confirming my understanding of the inability to port apps to another device when they are no longer available in the App Store. I suspect we won’t have any luck convincing Kosta to put anything in the App Store since I believe he is suing Apple over their latest series 7 watch keyboard. But I tend to be a glass half empty sort of guy regarding such things.

 

At any rate, I’m beginning to try other on screen keyboard typing methods since I realize that my days with FlickType are numbered. I downloaded Microsoft SwiftKey today and will give it a try. It was hard in the past when trying slide to type and other keyboard features since they all paled in comparison to FlickType but my perspective has now changed.

 

Alan

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 6:24 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, 

Out of  curiosity I erased an old iPhone 6S and tried to download FlickType from the clout, and also from my old Mac. Unfortunately, you are right, it could not download any app that is no longer in the app store. ️  

It looks like our days of FlickType typing are numbered... Unless we can convince Kosta to put FlickType classic beck in the app store., if it works with iOS 15. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 





On Sep 15, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Eileen,

 

I just updated my SE 2020 to iOS 14.8 and am happy to report that my flicktype keyboard is still working just fine. I don't believe that will be the case with iOS 15 so I will be in no hurry to upgrade to it.

 

A few years back, you could use iTunes to download apps to your local computer and carry them forward to a new device. However, Apple changed that approach as they moved more to cloud based orientation and now all apps transferred to a new device must come from the App Store. The names of your installed apps do transfer to the new device as do their installed screen locations but the app itself must download from the App Store and if it's no longer there, you're out of luck. I experienced this with a money reader app that I had on an old device that was no longer in the App Store when I upgraded to my iPhone SE 2020 so that app is no longer on my device.

 

Alan 

 

with Outlook for iOS


From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misrahi@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:58:32 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hi Alan and All,

I’m using a 6S, with 14.8. I have been able to use FlickType in FB to post on a time line and in the Message app to send a text message. I believe you are correct Alan that the apps are stored in the cloud and not in iTunes. At one point, I thought you could setup a new iPhone from the old one,  but I’m not 100% sure about that.

Best,
Eileen







Re: Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Daniel McGee
 

Use direct touch for long words and slide to type for shorter ones. This way, auto correct is pretty accurate for fixing shorter and slide to type, normally gets longer words right with me.of course your milage may vary. 

On 16 Sep 2021, at 23:50, Gina Grunden <runemagick115@...> wrote:



I quite like the Direct Touch type myself. I’ve not played with Slide to Type however.

 

 

Gina

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:29 AM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 



Hi all 

 

There are always the  direct touch typing and slide to type. Combined these together, and typing on the iPhone isn't bad. Of coarse the experience is nothing compared to FlickType but anything is better than nothing. Plus the original Fleksy is still around in the App Store.

 

  



On 16 Sep 2021, at 03:03, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Thanks for confirming my understanding of the inability to port apps to another device when they are no longer available in the App Store. I suspect we won’t have any luck convincing Kosta to put anything in the App Store since I believe he is suing Apple over their latest series 7 watch keyboard. But I tend to be a glass half empty sort of guy regarding such things.

 

At any rate, I’m beginning to try other on screen keyboard typing methods since I realize that my days with FlickType are numbered. I downloaded Microsoft SwiftKey today and will give it a try. It was hard in the past when trying slide to type and other keyboard features since they all paled in comparison to FlickType but my perspective has now changed.

 

Alan

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 6:24 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, 

Out of  curiosity I erased an old iPhone 6S and tried to download FlickType from the clout, and also from my old Mac. Unfortunately, you are right, it could not download any app that is no longer in the app store. ️  

It looks like our days of FlickType typing are numbered... Unless we can convince Kosta to put FlickType classic beck in the app store., if it works with iOS 15. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 




On Sep 15, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Eileen,

 

I just updated my SE 2020 to iOS 14.8 and am happy to report that my flicktype keyboard is still working just fine. I don't believe that will be the case with iOS 15 so I will be in no hurry to upgrade to it.

 

A few years back, you could use iTunes to download apps to your local computer and carry them forward to a new device. However, Apple changed that approach as they moved more to cloud based orientation and now all apps transferred to a new device must come from the App Store. The names of your installed apps do transfer to the new device as do their installed screen locations but the app itself must download from the App Store and if it's no longer there, you're out of luck. I experienced this with a money reader app that I had on an old device that was no longer in the App Store when I upgraded to my iPhone SE 2020 so that app is no longer on my device.

 

Alan 

 

with Outlook for iOS


From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misrahi@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:58:32 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hi Alan and All,

I’m using a 6S, with 14.8. I have been able to use FlickType in FB to post on a time line and in the Message app to send a text message. I believe you are correct Alan that the apps are stored in the cloud and not in iTunes. At one point, I thought you could setup a new iPhone from the old one,  but I’m not 100% sure about that.

Best,
Eileen






Re: Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Gina Grunden
 

I quite like the Direct Touch type myself. I’ve not played with Slide to Type however.

 

 

Gina

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:29 AM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 



Hi all 

 

There are always the  direct touch typing and slide to type. Combined these together, and typing on the iPhone isn't bad. Of coarse the experience is nothing compared to FlickType but anything is better than nothing. Plus the original Fleksy is still around in the App Store.

 

  



On 16 Sep 2021, at 03:03, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Thanks for confirming my understanding of the inability to port apps to another device when they are no longer available in the App Store. I suspect we won’t have any luck convincing Kosta to put anything in the App Store since I believe he is suing Apple over their latest series 7 watch keyboard. But I tend to be a glass half empty sort of guy regarding such things.

 

At any rate, I’m beginning to try other on screen keyboard typing methods since I realize that my days with FlickType are numbered. I downloaded Microsoft SwiftKey today and will give it a try. It was hard in the past when trying slide to type and other keyboard features since they all paled in comparison to FlickType but my perspective has now changed.

 

Alan

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 6:24 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, 

Out of  curiosity I erased an old iPhone 6S and tried to download FlickType from the clout, and also from my old Mac. Unfortunately, you are right, it could not download any app that is no longer in the app store. ️  

It looks like our days of FlickType typing are numbered... Unless we can convince Kosta to put FlickType classic beck in the app store., if it works with iOS 15. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 




On Sep 15, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Eileen,

 

I just updated my SE 2020 to iOS 14.8 and am happy to report that my flicktype keyboard is still working just fine. I don't believe that will be the case with iOS 15 so I will be in no hurry to upgrade to it.

 

A few years back, you could use iTunes to download apps to your local computer and carry them forward to a new device. However, Apple changed that approach as they moved more to cloud based orientation and now all apps transferred to a new device must come from the App Store. The names of your installed apps do transfer to the new device as do their installed screen locations but the app itself must download from the App Store and if it's no longer there, you're out of luck. I experienced this with a money reader app that I had on an old device that was no longer in the App Store when I upgraded to my iPhone SE 2020 so that app is no longer on my device.

 

Alan 

 

with Outlook for iOS


From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misrahi@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:58:32 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hi Alan and All,

I’m using a 6S, with 14.8. I have been able to use FlickType in FB to post on a time line and in the Message app to send a text message. I believe you are correct Alan that the apps are stored in the cloud and not in iTunes. At one point, I thought you could setup a new iPhone from the old one,  but I’m not 100% sure about that.

Best,
Eileen






Re: Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Daniel McGee
 


Hi all 

There are always the  direct touch typing and slide to type. Combined these together, and typing on the iPhone isn't bad. Of coarse the experience is nothing compared to FlickType but anything is better than nothing. Plus the original Fleksy is still around in the App Store.

  

On 16 Sep 2021, at 03:03, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Thanks for confirming my understanding of the inability to port apps to another device when they are no longer available in the App Store. I suspect we won’t have any luck convincing Kosta to put anything in the App Store since I believe he is suing Apple over their latest series 7 watch keyboard. But I tend to be a glass half empty sort of guy regarding such things.

 

At any rate, I’m beginning to try other on screen keyboard typing methods since I realize that my days with FlickType are numbered. I downloaded Microsoft SwiftKey today and will give it a try. It was hard in the past when trying slide to type and other keyboard features since they all paled in comparison to FlickType but my perspective has now changed.

 

Alan

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 6:24 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, 

Out of  curiosity I erased an old iPhone 6S and tried to download FlickType from the clout, and also from my old Mac. Unfortunately, you are right, it could not download any app that is no longer in the app store. ☹️  

It looks like our days of FlickType typing are numbered... Unless we can convince Kosta to put FlickType classic beck in the app store., if it works with iOS 15. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 



On Sep 15, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Eileen,

 

I just updated my SE 2020 to iOS 14.8 and am happy to report that my flicktype keyboard is still working just fine. I don't believe that will be the case with iOS 15 so I will be in no hurry to upgrade to it.

 

A few years back, you could use iTunes to download apps to your local computer and carry them forward to a new device. However, Apple changed that approach as they moved more to cloud based orientation and now all apps transferred to a new device must come from the App Store. The names of your installed apps do transfer to the new device as do their installed screen locations but the app itself must download from the App Store and if it's no longer there, you're out of luck. I experienced this with a money reader app that I had on an old device that was no longer in the App Store when I upgraded to my iPhone SE 2020 so that app is no longer on my device.

 

Alan 

 

with Outlook for iOS


From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misrahi@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:58:32 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hi Alan and All,

I’m using a 6S, with 14.8. I have been able to use FlickType in FB to post on a time line and in the Message app to send a text message. I believe you are correct Alan that the apps are stored in the cloud and not in iTunes. At one point, I thought you could setup a new iPhone from the old one,  but I’m not 100% sure about that.

Best,
Eileen





Re: Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hi Chuck,

 

Thanks for confirming my understanding of the inability to port apps to another device when they are no longer available in the App Store. I suspect we won’t have any luck convincing Kosta to put anything in the App Store since I believe he is suing Apple over their latest series 7 watch keyboard. But I tend to be a glass half empty sort of guy regarding such things.

 

At any rate, I’m beginning to try other on screen keyboard typing methods since I realize that my days with FlickType are numbered. I downloaded Microsoft SwiftKey today and will give it a try. It was hard in the past when trying slide to type and other keyboard features since they all paled in comparison to FlickType but my perspective has now changed.

 

Alan

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 6:24 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, 

Out of  curiosity I erased an old iPhone 6S and tried to download FlickType from the clout, and also from my old Mac. Unfortunately, you are right, it could not download any app that is no longer in the app store. ☹️  

It looks like our days of FlickType typing are numbered... Unless we can convince Kosta to put FlickType classic beck in the app store., if it works with iOS 15. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 



On Sep 15, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Eileen,

 

I just updated my SE 2020 to iOS 14.8 and am happy to report that my flicktype keyboard is still working just fine. I don't believe that will be the case with iOS 15 so I will be in no hurry to upgrade to it.

 

A few years back, you could use iTunes to download apps to your local computer and carry them forward to a new device. However, Apple changed that approach as they moved more to cloud based orientation and now all apps transferred to a new device must come from the App Store. The names of your installed apps do transfer to the new device as do their installed screen locations but the app itself must download from the App Store and if it's no longer there, you're out of luck. I experienced this with a money reader app that I had on an old device that was no longer in the App Store when I upgraded to my iPhone SE 2020 so that app is no longer on my device.

 

Alan 

 

with Outlook for iOS


From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misrahi@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:58:32 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hi Alan and All,

I’m using a 6S, with 14.8. I have been able to use FlickType in FB to post on a time line and in the Message app to send a text message. I believe you are correct Alan that the apps are stored in the cloud and not in iTunes. At one point, I thought you could setup a new iPhone from the old one,  but I’m not 100% sure about that.

Best,
Eileen





Re: Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Chuck Dean
 

Hello Alan, 
Out of  curiosity I erased an old iPhone 6S and tried to download FlickType from the clout, and also from my old Mac. Unfortunately, you are right, it could not download any app that is no longer in the app store. ☹️  
It looks like our days of FlickType typing are numbered... Unless we can convince Kosta to put FlickType classic beck in the app store., if it works with iOS 15. 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Sep 15, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:


Hi Eileen,

I just updated my SE 2020 to iOS 14.8 and am happy to report that my flicktype keyboard is still working just fine. I don't believe that will be the case with iOS 15 so I will be in no hurry to upgrade to it.

A few years back, you could use iTunes to download apps to your local computer and carry them forward to a new device. However, Apple changed that approach as they moved more to cloud based orientation and now all apps transferred to a new device must come from the App Store. The names of your installed apps do transfer to the new device as do their installed screen locations but the app itself must download from the App Store and if it's no longer there, you're out of luck. I experienced this with a money reader app that I had on an old device that was no longer in the App Store when I upgraded to my iPhone SE 2020 so that app is no longer on my device.

Alan 

with Outlook for iOS

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misrahi@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:58:32 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?
 
Hi Alan and All,

I’m using a 6S, with 14.8. I have been able to use FlickType in FB to post on a time line and in the Message app to send a text message. I believe you are correct Alan that the apps are stored in the cloud and not in iTunes. At one point, I thought you could setup a new iPhone from the old one,  but I’m not 100% sure about that.

Best,
Eileen






Re: Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hi Eileen,

I just updated my SE 2020 to iOS 14.8 and am happy to report that my flicktype keyboard is still working just fine. I don't believe that will be the case with iOS 15 so I will be in no hurry to upgrade to it.

A few years back, you could use iTunes to download apps to your local computer and carry them forward to a new device. However, Apple changed that approach as they moved more to cloud based orientation and now all apps transferred to a new device must come from the App Store. The names of your installed apps do transfer to the new device as do their installed screen locations but the app itself must download from the App Store and if it's no longer there, you're out of luck. I experienced this with a money reader app that I had on an old device that was no longer in the App Store when I upgraded to my iPhone SE 2020 so that app is no longer on my device.

Alan 

with Outlook for iOS


From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misrahi@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:58:32 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?
 
Hi Alan and All,

I’m using a 6S, with 14.8. I have been able to use FlickType in FB to post on a time line and in the Message app to send a text message. I believe you are correct Alan that the apps are stored in the cloud and not in iTunes. At one point, I thought you could setup a new iPhone from the old one,  but I’m not 100% sure about that.

Best,
Eileen






Re: Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Eileen Misrahi
 

Hi Alan and All,

I’m using a 6S, with 14.8. I have been able to use FlickType in FB to post on a time line and in the Message app to send a text message. I believe you are correct Alan that the apps are stored in the cloud and not in iTunes. At one point, I thought you could setup a new iPhone from the old one, but I’m not 100% sure about that.

Best,
Eileen


Re: Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Chuck Dean
 

Hello Alan, 
I just saw this on the Verge. 
This sounds like the apps are stored in the cloud or on the Mac, depending on where you backup... Both in my case. 
I am hoping this is true... If not, maybe some one will grab the open source of Fleksy and built a new app. 
I am a glass half full kind of guy. 

On Sep 15, 2021, at 7:38 AM, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:


Hello Alan, 
We are talking about the same thing. 
What a bummer! 
I thought the apps were stored in the cloud. This is one more reason why I will hang on to this iPhone 8 for as long as possible. 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Sep 15, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:


Hi Chuck,

I'm not sure we're pulling on the same thread. I've been talking about the source of apps when getting a new iPhone and I thought you were talking about apps in the app library of your current device. Apps on a new iPhone must come from the App Store so only those still available there will download to a new device. This is true whether you do a device to device transfer of settings and content or whether you restore a backup from the iCloud or from a local computer. Therefore, FlickType will not download to a new device. If you're talking about something else, please enlighten me.

Alan 

with Outlook for iOS

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Chuck Dean <cadean329@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:35:33 AM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?
 
So those apps are not in the iCloud, they only download from the App Store?

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Sep 14, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Yes, I know about the App library found on the last home screen of my iPhone. FlickType is running just fine on my current iPhone whether as a keyboard or as the container app. However, at some point, I’ll have to upgrade this iPhone and FlickType will be unavailable to my new iPhone which must download its apps from the App Store.

 

Alan

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 11:05 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Ellen,

Yep library is on your phone. If you do a three finger swipe left to the last page, there is your app library. It should have all the apps that you have loaded onto the phone, regardless of whether they are on the screen or not. Take a look, that’s where I found some very old apps I forgot about. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 



On Sep 14, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Well, there is no app library on your local computer anymore since Apple changed iTunes a few years back requiring new devices to download apps from the App Store as opposed to restoring them from a local computer. I expect my use of FlickType whether as a keyboard or with the container app will end when I upgrade to a new iPhone.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:57 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, I really do not know what will happen in the future, but as it is right now there is no FlickType keyboard for iPhone in the app store. If compatible, FlickType should be able to install from your app library. 

 

I always turned off full access after I did testing and the container app always worked. 

 

I would love to see FlickType classic beck in the app store... At least it would give the community something. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 




On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Thanks for your post and comments about the FlickType container app. Do you know if the container app will be available in iOS 15 or available for download once a new device is purchased requiring re-download of all apps from the App Store? I’m happy to be able to continue to use FlickType however possible and I first began using Fleksy and FlickType by copying and pasting as is done with the container app and is still faster. I suspect the FlickType container app will not be obtainable from the App Store when purchasing a new device.

 

Do you have full access turned off under Settings, FlickType on your device? Is this required in order to use the container app successfully on your device?

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:01 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, 

 

I tried FlickType in the container app and it seems to work fine, but I do not have full access enabled, so I can not tell you if it is working in other fields. 

 

I have always used the old FlickType classic app, which has always worked perfectly in every iOS update and does not require full access to work. It does require a few more taps to export the text, but FlickType Classic has been my go to keyboard. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 





On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi List,

 

With the FlickType keyboard no longer available in the App Store, I’ve being very careful about upgrading my SE 2020 to new versions of IOS. I’m sure the FlickType keyboard will not work with iOS 15 so I have no plans to upgrade to it for a while. I’m not sure whether the FlickType keyboard will work with iOS 14.8 which dropped in the past couple of days. Have any of you using the keyboard upgraded to iOS 14.8 and if so, does the FlickType keyboard work with it?

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly


Re: Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Chuck Dean
 

Hello Alan, 
We are talking about the same thing. 
What a bummer! 
I thought the apps were stored in the cloud. This is one more reason why I will hang on to this iPhone 8 for as long as possible. 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Sep 15, 2021, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:


Hi Chuck,

I'm not sure we're pulling on the same thread. I've been talking about the source of apps when getting a new iPhone and I thought you were talking about apps in the app library of your current device. Apps on a new iPhone must come from the App Store so only those still available there will download to a new device. This is true whether you do a device to device transfer of settings and content or whether you restore a backup from the iCloud or from a local computer. Therefore, FlickType will not download to a new device. If you're talking about something else, please enlighten me.

Alan 

with Outlook for iOS

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Chuck Dean <cadean329@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:35:33 AM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?
 
So those apps are not in the iCloud, they only download from the App Store?

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Sep 14, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Yes, I know about the App library found on the last home screen of my iPhone. FlickType is running just fine on my current iPhone whether as a keyboard or as the container app. However, at some point, I’ll have to upgrade this iPhone and FlickType will be unavailable to my new iPhone which must download its apps from the App Store.

 

Alan

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 11:05 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Ellen,

Yep library is on your phone. If you do a three finger swipe left to the last page, there is your app library. It should have all the apps that you have loaded onto the phone, regardless of whether they are on the screen or not. Take a look, that’s where I found some very old apps I forgot about. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 



On Sep 14, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Well, there is no app library on your local computer anymore since Apple changed iTunes a few years back requiring new devices to download apps from the App Store as opposed to restoring them from a local computer. I expect my use of FlickType whether as a keyboard or with the container app will end when I upgrade to a new iPhone.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:57 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, I really do not know what will happen in the future, but as it is right now there is no FlickType keyboard for iPhone in the app store. If compatible, FlickType should be able to install from your app library. 

 

I always turned off full access after I did testing and the container app always worked. 

 

I would love to see FlickType classic beck in the app store... At least it would give the community something. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 




On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Thanks for your post and comments about the FlickType container app. Do you know if the container app will be available in iOS 15 or available for download once a new device is purchased requiring re-download of all apps from the App Store? I’m happy to be able to continue to use FlickType however possible and I first began using Fleksy and FlickType by copying and pasting as is done with the container app and is still faster. I suspect the FlickType container app will not be obtainable from the App Store when purchasing a new device.

 

Do you have full access turned off under Settings, FlickType on your device? Is this required in order to use the container app successfully on your device?

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:01 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, 

 

I tried FlickType in the container app and it seems to work fine, but I do not have full access enabled, so I can not tell you if it is working in other fields. 

 

I have always used the old FlickType classic app, which has always worked perfectly in every iOS update and does not require full access to work. It does require a few more taps to export the text, but FlickType Classic has been my go to keyboard. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 





On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi List,

 

With the FlickType keyboard no longer available in the App Store, I’ve being very careful about upgrading my SE 2020 to new versions of IOS. I’m sure the FlickType keyboard will not work with iOS 15 so I have no plans to upgrade to it for a while. I’m not sure whether the FlickType keyboard will work with iOS 14.8 which dropped in the past couple of days. Have any of you using the keyboard upgraded to iOS 14.8 and if so, does the FlickType keyboard work with it?

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly


Re: Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hi Chuck,

I'm not sure we're pulling on the same thread. I've been talking about the source of apps when getting a new iPhone and I thought you were talking about apps in the app library of your current device. Apps on a new iPhone must come from the App Store so only those still available there will download to a new device. This is true whether you do a device to device transfer of settings and content or whether you restore a backup from the iCloud or from a local computer. Therefore, FlickType will not download to a new device. If you're talking about something else, please enlighten me.

Alan 

with Outlook for iOS


From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Chuck Dean <cadean329@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:35:33 AM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?
 
So those apps are not in the iCloud, they only download from the App Store?

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Sep 14, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Yes, I know about the App library found on the last home screen of my iPhone. FlickType is running just fine on my current iPhone whether as a keyboard or as the container app. However, at some point, I’ll have to upgrade this iPhone and FlickType will be unavailable to my new iPhone which must download its apps from the App Store.

 

Alan

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 11:05 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Ellen,

Yep library is on your phone. If you do a three finger swipe left to the last page, there is your app library. It should have all the apps that you have loaded onto the phone, regardless of whether they are on the screen or not. Take a look, that’s where I found some very old apps I forgot about. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 



On Sep 14, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Well, there is no app library on your local computer anymore since Apple changed iTunes a few years back requiring new devices to download apps from the App Store as opposed to restoring them from a local computer. I expect my use of FlickType whether as a keyboard or with the container app will end when I upgrade to a new iPhone.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:57 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, I really do not know what will happen in the future, but as it is right now there is no FlickType keyboard for iPhone in the app store. If compatible, FlickType should be able to install from your app library. 

 

I always turned off full access after I did testing and the container app always worked. 

 

I would love to see FlickType classic beck in the app store... At least it would give the community something. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 




On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Thanks for your post and comments about the FlickType container app. Do you know if the container app will be available in iOS 15 or available for download once a new device is purchased requiring re-download of all apps from the App Store? I’m happy to be able to continue to use FlickType however possible and I first began using Fleksy and FlickType by copying and pasting as is done with the container app and is still faster. I suspect the FlickType container app will not be obtainable from the App Store when purchasing a new device.

 

Do you have full access turned off under Settings, FlickType on your device? Is this required in order to use the container app successfully on your device?

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:01 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, 

 

I tried FlickType in the container app and it seems to work fine, but I do not have full access enabled, so I can not tell you if it is working in other fields. 

 

I have always used the old FlickType classic app, which has always worked perfectly in every iOS update and does not require full access to work. It does require a few more taps to export the text, but FlickType Classic has been my go to keyboard. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 





On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi List,

 

With the FlickType keyboard no longer available in the App Store, I’ve being very careful about upgrading my SE 2020 to new versions of IOS. I’m sure the FlickType keyboard will not work with iOS 15 so I have no plans to upgrade to it for a while. I’m not sure whether the FlickType keyboard will work with iOS 14.8 which dropped in the past couple of days. Have any of you using the keyboard upgraded to iOS 14.8 and if so, does the FlickType keyboard work with it?

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly


Re: Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

Chuck Dean
 

So those apps are not in the iCloud, they only download from the App Store?

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Sep 14, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Yes, I know about the App library found on the last home screen of my iPhone. FlickType is running just fine on my current iPhone whether as a keyboard or as the container app. However, at some point, I’ll have to upgrade this iPhone and FlickType will be unavailable to my new iPhone which must download its apps from the App Store.

 

Alan

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 11:05 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Ellen,

Yep library is on your phone. If you do a three finger swipe left to the last page, there is your app library. It should have all the apps that you have loaded onto the phone, regardless of whether they are on the screen or not. Take a look, that’s where I found some very old apps I forgot about. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 



On Sep 14, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Well, there is no app library on your local computer anymore since Apple changed iTunes a few years back requiring new devices to download apps from the App Store as opposed to restoring them from a local computer. I expect my use of FlickType whether as a keyboard or with the container app will end when I upgrade to a new iPhone.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:57 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, I really do not know what will happen in the future, but as it is right now there is no FlickType keyboard for iPhone in the app store. If compatible, FlickType should be able to install from your app library. 

 

I always turned off full access after I did testing and the container app always worked. 

 

I would love to see FlickType classic beck in the app store... At least it would give the community something. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 




On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi Chuck,

 

Thanks for your post and comments about the FlickType container app. Do you know if the container app will be available in iOS 15 or available for download once a new device is purchased requiring re-download of all apps from the App Store? I’m happy to be able to continue to use FlickType however possible and I first began using Fleksy and FlickType by copying and pasting as is done with the container app and is still faster. I suspect the FlickType container app will not be obtainable from the App Store when purchasing a new device.

 

Do you have full access turned off under Settings, FlickType on your device? Is this required in order to use the container app successfully on your device?

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:01 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Have any FlickType keyboard users upgraded to iOS 14.8?

 

Hello Alan, 

 

I tried FlickType in the container app and it seems to work fine, but I do not have full access enabled, so I can not tell you if it is working in other fields. 

 

I have always used the old FlickType classic app, which has always worked perfectly in every iOS update and does not require full access to work. It does require a few more taps to export the text, but FlickType Classic has been my go to keyboard. 

 

Chuck  (mobile)

Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 





On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:



Hi List,

 

With the FlickType keyboard no longer available in the App Store, I’ve being very careful about upgrading my SE 2020 to new versions of IOS. I’m sure the FlickType keyboard will not work with iOS 15 so I have no plans to upgrade to it for a while. I’m not sure whether the FlickType keyboard will work with iOS 14.8 which dropped in the past couple of days. Have any of you using the keyboard upgraded to iOS 14.8 and if so, does the FlickType keyboard work with it?

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

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