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Re: Full screen mode

Sieghard Weitzel

#741

Just out of curiocity, but what is this about Flicktype and the Apple Watch?
It used to be that a 2-finger swipe down inserted a new line or maybe that was in Fleksy, but now it does other things and I think the swipe right with a brief hold works quite well.

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From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Clarkg
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 6:53 AM
To: flicktype <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: [FlickType] Full screen mode

I like to use the full screen mode the best and this Apple Watch just fabulous until I want to move up a lion or down the line I wish we could figure out a gesture like maybe a two finger stroke up for a two finger stroke down to go to the next or previous line that would be great

 🦇man and Ken Sent from my iPhone

Full screen mode

Ken Clarkg

#740

I like to use the full screen mode the best and this Apple Watch just fabulous until I want to move up a lion or down the line I wish we could figure out a gesture like maybe a two finger stroke up for a two finger stroke down to go to the next or previous line that would be great

 🦇man and Ken Sent from my iPhone

Not supporting

Sameh Sawalha <sameh.sawalha@...>

#739

Hi
It does not support Arabic.

Re: Way cool

FlickType

#738

Thank you Jennifer. Did you mean to send an empty message body?

- Kosta

Way cool

Jennifer Gail <jennifergg711@...>

#737

Re: Question

Ken Clarkg

#735

The reason I said this the way I sai it is because the program seems to think each word is a document. 
 🦇man and Ken

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On Aug 31, 2018, at 11:49 AM, Ken Clarkg <khclark1@...> wrote:


I may be way off base, but I was wondering if it could be possible to remove the end top of document markers so you would not get stopped when flipping thru and could flip thru the whole document? 
🦇man and Ken 

Question

Ken Clarkg

#734

I may be way off base, but I was wondering if it could be possible to remove the end top of document markers so you would not get stopped when flipping thru and could flip thru the whole document? 
 🦇man and Ken

Re: Music stops when flick type keyboard is invoked.

FlickType

#733
Edited

Hi Scott, and Sieghard,
Hehe, yes, though we always try to do our best to accommodate as many people as possible. As it is now, there's an option so that you can either listen to audio while typing or so that the audio does not interfere with typing depending on preference. The opposite setting from unduckable is customizable, and yes, the music should not play with this setting on.

Warmly,
Ashley

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On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:44 PM, Field, S. (Scott) wrote:


My personal preference is for the music/podcast to stop when using FlickType
as you are relying on the voice feedback in FlickType while typing. I am not
able to appreciate a good song or interesting podcast whilst trying to
decipher the spoken words in FlickType. So, I like it the way it is currently.
As with most things, a settings option to change this can suit everyone though
and risks making the app more complex than necessary. Who said being an app
developer was easy (

Re: Typing speed, perspective of a person with very limitedvision

Tangela Mahaffey <tangela.m.m@...>

#732

Hi,

I agree with you about the toggle for the two finger tap to change case, as I do end up envoking that accidentally much more often than I actually intend to use it, and typically when I do want to capitalize a word, I just long press on the letter anyway.

However, when you manually enter a word in Flicktype, it actually IS saved to your dictionary when you leave the app you’re in as I understand it.

Re: Music stops when flick type keyboard is invoked.

Field, S. (Scott)

#731

Hi 
My personal preference is for the music/podcast to stop when using FlickType as you are relying on the voice feedback in FlickType while typing.  I am not able to appreciate a good song or interesting podcast whilst trying to decipher the spoken words in FlickType.  So, I like it the way it is currently.  As with most things, a settings option to change this can suit everyone though and risks making the app more complex than necessary.  Who said being an app developer was easy ( 
Regards
Scott Field


﻿On 2018/08/28, 06:42, "hello@flicktype.groups.io on behalf of Sieghard Weitzel" <hello@flicktype.groups.io on behalf of @Sieghard> wrote:

    Does this mean if I have audio ducking on music will stop? If so then I think that should be fixed because I prefer to have this on.

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    From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of FlickType
    Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 4:23 PM
    To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
    Subject: Re: [FlickType] Music stops when flick type keyboard is invoked.

    Hi All,

    Our users have been able to listen to music and podcasts without issue while using FlickType when their audio playback is set to unduckable and not customizable in the FlickType settings.  You may need to restart the audio once after changing the setting but it should work from there on out. If you still have trouble, please restart your device and try again.

    Jessica, 
    Will you please use this link and send us the information to help us find the crash. Please don't worry about the screen recording bullet for now, but please do send the crash logs and the remaining information: https://flicktype.groups.io/g/hello/wiki/Reporting-Bugs

    Thanks!
    Ashley

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Re: Typing speed, perspective of a person with very limited vision

Field, S. (Scott)

#730

Hi Chuck

Thanks so much for the info on slow pressing to add words, I got into the habit of switching to another keyboard when words weren’t being recognised, should have done some more reading before speaking up ☺

Fleksy is far from perfect for low vision users. I am just used to it as I have used it for a long time. Flicktype is far better than Fleksy for our community of users.

Regards

Scott Field

From: <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of Chuck Dean <cadean329@...>
Reply-To: "hello@flicktype.groups.io" <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Date: Monday, 27 August 2018 at 19:16
To: "hello@flicktype.groups.io" <hello@flicktype.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Typing speed, perspective of a person with very limited vision

Also, if you are using the minimal keyboard, how do you insert a new line, and how do you change to the iOS keyboard. These were the main problems I had with fleksy besides the prediction engine didn't seem as accurate.

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Re: Typing speed, perspective of a person with very limited vision

Field, S. (Scott)

#729

Hi Ashley 
Thank you so much for the prompt response.  I honestly didn't know that words were automatically added to the dictionary when you slow press them, that is certainly helpful, so with more extensive use it will get better and better.  
Great to hear that you will be implementing a change to mitigate the accidental two finger tap.  As always, the app just get better and better.  
Regards

Scott Field 

﻿On 2018/08/28, 01:34, "hello@flicktype.groups.io on behalf of FlickType" <hello@flicktype.groups.io on behalf of @FlickType> wrote:

    As for your second issue, we agree that the dictionary is not as extensive as we'd like. Due to the nature of our autocorrect engine and ranking system it is quite a large undertaking to update the existing dictionary, though this is high on our list of goals it will take us a little bit of time to get there. We hope the convenience of adding words to the dictionary helps a little bit in counteracting this shortcoming.
    
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Re: Music stops when flick type keyboard is invoked.

Sieghard Weitzel

#728

Does this mean if I have audio ducking on music will stop? If so then I think that should be fixed because I prefer to have this on.

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-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of FlickType
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 4:23 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Music stops when flick type keyboard is invoked.

Hi All,

Our users have been able to listen to music and podcasts without issue while using FlickType when their audio playback is set to unduckable and not customizable in the FlickType settings.  You may need to restart the audio once after changing the setting but it should work from there on out. If you still have trouble, please restart your device and try again.

Jessica, 
Will you please use this link and send us the information to help us find the crash. Please don't worry about the screen recording bullet for now, but please do send the crash logs and the remaining information: https://flicktype.groups.io/g/hello/wiki/Reporting-Bugs

Thanks!
Ashley

Re: [Flick Type] text predictability

Alan Robbins

#727

Ashley,

iPhone 6s.
Don't understand what you mean by keyboard? Nothing external, on the iPhone I have the built in one, flicktype, and imogee. I generally use flicktype and thus the question. I am finding that predictability is better the closer to the letters I get. However, given it is full screen, when I drag my finger  around to kind of get an idea of where letters are located compared to the IOS built in keyboard, does not seem that different. Suggestions?

Al

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From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of FlickType
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 7:15 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] [Flick Type] text predictability

Hi Al,

It seems as though the predictability for you is extremely low compared to what should be the case, especially for 4 or 5 letter words which are typically not troublesome. What type of device are you using? What keyboard do you typically use on your device? The app does not take into account what words have previously been typed at this time, but even without that, we have an extremely powerful autocorrect engine that is reliable out of the box.

Thanks,
Ashley

Re: Typing speed, perspective of a person with very limited vision

FlickType

#726

Hi Scott,

Sincerely appreciate the thoughtful review and comparison, thank you!
 
In regards to your first point with the unintentional invocation of the shift shortcut, we've been considering this issue for fast two-handed typists like yourself and we think we may have come up with a simple solution where we require a little longer two-finger tap to invoke shift, that way the system doesn't misunderstand quick successive taps. We will be implementing a fix for this soon. 

As for your second issue, we agree that the dictionary is not as extensive as we'd like. Due to the nature of our autocorrect engine and ranking system it is quite a large undertaking to update the existing dictionary, though this is high on our list of goals it will take us a little bit of time to get there. We hope the convenience of adding words to the dictionary helps a little bit in counteracting this shortcoming.

Thanks, again!
Ashley

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On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 11:09 PM, Field, S. (Scott) wrote:


restaurant and found it was a pleasure to type out a short message using
FlickType  as I could see the large typed words and didn’t need to read it
back, that was the most pleasant experience I have had when typing out a
message on my phone in a noisy area. 

The app is getting better with every release and it is clear that Kosta and
Ashley are working hard to get it right for the blind and low vision
community, the efforts are truly appreciated. 

Thank you

Re: Music stops when flick type keyboard is invoked.

FlickType

#725

Hi All,

Our users have been able to listen to music and podcasts without issue while using FlickType when their audio playback is set to unduckable and not customizable in the FlickType settings.  You may need to restart the audio once after changing the setting but it should work from there on out. If you still have trouble, please restart your device and try again.

Jessica, 
Will you please use this link and send us the information to help us find the crash. Please don't worry about the screen recording bullet for now, but please do send the crash logs and the remaining information: https://flicktype.groups.io/g/hello/wiki/Reporting-Bugs

Thanks!
Ashley

Re: Typing speed, perspective of a person with very limited vision

Chuck Dean

#723

Hello Scot,

If you manually type a word in flicktype, that word will be entered into the dictionary once you finish the typing session. The only problem with this is if you need to type the same word more then once in a session.

As a fomer fleksy user, I am curious, what keyboard configuration are you using? Are you using the space bar or minimal keyboard?

Also, when you type with fleksy do you get a stuttering speech when it reads back a word?

Also, if you are using the minimal keyboard, how do you insert a new line, and how do you change to the iOS keyboard. These were the main problems I had with fleksy besides the prediction engine didn't seem as accurate.

ChuckF

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On Aug 26, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Field, S. (Scott) <ScottF@...> wrote:

Hi

I have both Flicktype Beta as well as Fleksy installed as third party keyboards.

I did a test this weekend to see which one I can type faster with.

This test was done in a quiet environment where it was easy to hear the voiceover feedback.

The result is that Fleksy is still faster due to two reasons only. FlickType is better than Fleksy in all other ways::

As much as I have tried, I cannot type quickly with two hands in landscape or portrait mode, I get the “Letters lower case” message within the first few words I type. Then I have to figure out which bit that I have typed is still there, clean it up and continue typing at a slower pace as to not get the “Letters lower case” message again. A very simple fix for this would be to put an option in the settings to disable the two finger tap to change case. There is after all an alternative option available for most users, giving the option would be great.
The dictionary in FlickType is a bit limited. Some standard English words simply don’t get recognised by FlickType where they do in Fleksy. The most recent example I came across is “jamming”. Is there a different dictionary used between the two apps.? A nice feature addition would be to allow one to slowly type out the unrecognised word and then flicking up with one finger to save that word to the dictionary as in the case of Fleksy, thereby ensuring that you only need to do this once for each particular word that is not recognised. This would also be very useful for people’s names.

Yesterday I was in a noisy restaurant and found it was a pleasure to type out a short message using FlickType as I could see the large typed words and didn’t need to read it back, that was the most pleasant experience I have had when typing out a message on my phone in a noisy area.

The app is getting better with every release and it is clear that Kosta and Ashley are working hard to get it right for the blind and low vision community, the efforts are truly appreciated.

Thank you

Scott field

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Re: Music stops when flick type keyboard is invoked.

Jessica D

#722

Hello ,

I've noticed this too 
Sent fro.m my iPho, when listening to podcasts, or any audio for that matter. This is definitely a serious bug, and should be fixed as soon as possible. This is just a thought, but maybe it has something to do with the voice feedback setting that can be enabled when voiceover is turned off. 

Also, as I type, FlickType will randomly crash. I'm using an iPhone X, running iOS 11.4.1 e

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On Aug 27, 2018, at 7:45 AM, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io <alan1057=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Yes, I just noticed this the other day while listening to a baseball game
with the MLB at bat app, very annoying. Hopefully this will be addressed.
However, that said, still a lot of positives when using this app. I still do
dictate whenever possible as it is much preferred and much quicker. However,
when I do need to type I love the flicktype app.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of via
Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 10:04 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: [FlickType] Music stops when flick type keyboard is invoked.



Hello. 

Today I started trying out flick type, I like it, but if I'm listening to
audio on my iPhone and I invoke the flick type keyboard, the audio stops.
Why is this so? 

Re: Music stops when flick type keyboard is invoked.

Alan Robbins

#721

Yes, I just noticed this the other day while listening to a baseball game
with the MLB at bat app, very annoying. Hopefully this will be addressed.
However, that said, still a lot of positives when using this app. I still do
dictate whenever possible as it is much preferred and much quicker. However,
when I do need to type I love the flicktype app.

Al

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-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> On Behalf Of via
Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 10:04 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: [FlickType] Music stops when flick type keyboard is invoked.

Hello. 

Today I started trying out flick type, I like it, but if I'm listening to
audio on my iPhone and I invoke the flick type keyboard, the audio stops.
Why is this so?

Typing speed, perspective of a person with very limited vision

Field, S. (Scott)

#720

Hi

I have both Flicktype Beta as well as Fleksy installed as third party keyboards.

I did a test this weekend to see which one I can type faster with.

This test was done in a quiet environment where it was easy to hear the voiceover feedback.

The result is that Fleksy is still faster due to two reasons only. FlickType is better than Fleksy in all other ways::

As much as I have tried, I cannot type quickly with two hands in landscape or portrait mode, I get the “Letters lower case” message within the first few words I type. Then I have to figure out which bit that I have typed is still there, clean it up and continue typing at a slower pace as to not get the “Letters lower case” message again. A very simple fix for this would be to put an option in the settings to disable the two finger tap to change case. There is after all an alternative option available for most users, giving the option would be great.
The dictionary in FlickType is a bit limited. Some standard English words simply don’t get recognised by FlickType where they do in Fleksy. The most recent example I came across is “jamming”. Is there a different dictionary used between the two apps.? A nice feature addition would be to allow one to slowly type out the unrecognised word and then flicking up with one finger to save that word to the dictionary as in the case of Fleksy, thereby ensuring that you only need to do this once for each particular word that is not recognised. This would also be very useful for people’s names.

Yesterday I was in a noisy restaurant and found it was a pleasure to type out a short message using FlickType as I could see the large typed words and didn’t need to read it back, that was the most pleasant experience I have had when typing out a message on my phone in a noisy area.

The app is getting better with every release and it is clear that Kosta and Ashley are working hard to get it right for the blind and low vision community, the efforts are truly appreciated.

Thank you

Scott field

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