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Re: Release #32: More sound improvements, quick reply links, and new settings

Macster
 

Regarding the slight slow down that has been mentioned, I have noticed a solution that might or might not be exclusive to my own set up. What I've noticed is I struggle to type and the general focus of VoiceOver on my phone jumps around a bit when I have my charger plugged in. As soon as I take my charger out, everything returns to normal. Can anyone else who is finding build 32 confirm this behaviour? A bizarre one I know, but all I can think of is maybe it has something to do with iCloud backups that are performed when connected to power? Beyond this unusual issue however, I like the ability to customize the typing clicks and other such sounds. Regarding the raise to listen feature, I normally just put my hand over the top of my phone to listen to what I've typed. Regarding possible uses of the rotor, I wonder if it would be possible to add an insert feature? There have been times when I've missed something out and had to delete the sentence I'm typing to go back and add it in. But overall, I'm very happy to say it you've done a superb job so far and it already feels as good as if not better than the original. Keep up the good work!


Re: Deletion clicks and latency

Macster
 

Regarding the slight slow down that has been mentioned, I have noticed a solution that might or might not be exclusive to my own set up. What I've noticed is I struggle to type and the general focus of VoiceOver on my phone jumps around a bit when I have my charger plugged in. As soon as I take my charger out, everything returns to normal. Can anyone else who is finding build 32 confirm this behaviour? A bizarre one I know, but all I can think of is maybe it has something to do with iCloud backups that are performed when connected to power? Beyond this unusual issue


I would like to join the group.

Kevin Wassmer <kwassmer@...>
 

Sent from my iPhone I would like to join the flicktype group. Thanks for the imvite.


Re: Deletion clicks and latency

Benny Barber
 

Ashley,

This started after some time. The app seemed to work as it should at first,
but this occurred maybe a day later. When I delete (swipe left), I get a
key tap sound. I also noticed I am getting a double key tap sound when I
two finger swipe right/left to change to numbers/symbols/letters. The same
goes for two finger swipe up for the menu. I get key tap sounds when I
swipe through word options as well. The app seems to be sluggish (all
swipes and tapsalso). Yes, I did turn off my device and restart it and the
symptoms are still there. When I first try to open build 32, I got the
crash. I uninstalled and re-installed and it worked fine at first and these
issues started later. Thanks.

Benny

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io [mailto:hello@flicktype.groups.io] On Behalf
Of FlickType
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:30 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Deletion clicks and latency

Thanks for your message, Benny. Are you saying this issue occurred right
after updating to build 32 or it took some time for this issue to occur?
Have you restarted your device after you noticed the issue?

Appreciate any details you can provide!
Ashley


Re: Beta 1.32

Chanelle Allen
 

Hello Ashley, Kosta, and @FlickType Group,
My name is Chanelle and I have just joined the group to keep up with the latest FlickType news and to follow discussions about betas. My iPhone is a 7 running iOS 11.3.
I like the positional audio tapping sounds because I think that they improve my typing accuracy. I saw that a question was posed about whether the rotor could serve a purpose in FlickType. Could the rotor be used to access an editing mode where the standard VoiceOver gestures functioned in their usual manner to review and edit text? As far as providing initial FlickType instructions upon opening the app, creating a prompt or menu option for a user to disable should definitely be implemented. At the same time, I think that a beginner tutorial could be especially helpful for new users. A tutorial covering advanced features might be helpful as well. If you do add predictive text ability to speed up typing long words, I emphatically ask that it could be an optional feature. I would be willing to try the predictive text/typing feature, but as someone who finds that autocorrect is a great annoyance, I would want to control the setting if possible.
After downloading and then reinstalling the 1.32 beta yesterday, I still experienced problems with FlickType freezing when I would try to interrupt speech to type or to enter the menu. Disabling raise to read back fixed the problem. Is their a way to decrease the sensitivity of "raise to read back?"
I have typed most of this message in Flicktype. However, I didn't finish, because I couldn't get all of the text to read back to me when returning to the menu. This problem occurred once after all the text up to this paragraph had been written. No one else probably writes a novel. :) Also, as the length of the text increased, menu options became more difficult to access due to focus issues. I had to perform the three finger flick up gesture several times before getting to settings or the back button.
Flicktype is a great app, and I am excited to see how it will continue to develop. I hope to become as proficient with Flicktype as I am with braille screen input. Thank you for your hard work and dedication to bringing back the original Fleksy experience and making it even better.
Chanelle


Re: Beta 1.32

Chuck Dean
 

Try restarting your phone, or iPad. It helped with mine.

Chuck (mobile)

Moderator note: hello@flicktype.groups.io will no longer accept posts relating to the beta. Please use beta@flicktype.groups.io for all beta-related discussion. Thank you!

On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:16 PM, George Cham <George.cham@...> wrote:

I'm finding the app is very slugish when typing since updating to the current build.

Kind regards,

George Cham





‘May the Lord bless you and protect you. May the Lord smile on you and be gracious to you. May the Lord show you his favor and give you his peace.’
Numbers 6:24-26



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From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of FlickType <@FlickType>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 1:27:16 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Beta 1.32

Hi Paul,

Thanks very much for your message. Some of the issues you're mentioning like entering a 3 letter word, flicking right and more letters being entered, as well as the flick right generally adding more letters gives me the feeling there are accidental taps happening. If you feel like you're typing the same as always, my next thought is whether you've restarted your devices recently? Sometimes issues can occur over time and a restart can resolve them.

As for the sounds, we will continue to make adjustments and improvements as we progress with the development of the app. We hope to get to a point where people can find a sweet spot that works well for them.

You're correct about the current editing shortcoming but we are currently building cursor control that will launch at the same time as the system-wide keyboard as we find this to be a very important feature in creating a fully functional typing experience.

Please let us know if you think of anything else!
Ashley






Re: Beta 1.32

George Cham
 

I'm finding the app is very slugish when typing since updating to the current build.

Kind regards,

George Cham





‘May the Lord bless you and protect you. May the Lord smile on you and be gracious to you. May the Lord show you his favor and give you his peace.’
Numbers 6:24-26



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________________________________
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io <hello@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of FlickType <@FlickType>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 1:27:16 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: Re: [FlickType] Beta 1.32

Hi Paul,

Thanks very much for your message. Some of the issues you're mentioning like entering a 3 letter word, flicking right and more letters being entered, as well as the flick right generally adding more letters gives me the feeling there are accidental taps happening. If you feel like you're typing the same as always, my next thought is whether you've restarted your devices recently? Sometimes issues can occur over time and a restart can resolve them.

As for the sounds, we will continue to make adjustments and improvements as we progress with the development of the app. We hope to get to a point where people can find a sweet spot that works well for them.

You're correct about the current editing shortcoming but we are currently building cursor control that will launch at the same time as the system-wide keyboard as we find this to be a very important feature in creating a fully functional typing experience.

Please let us know if you think of anything else!
Ashley


Re: Deletion clicks and latency

 

Thanks for your message, Benny. Are you saying this issue occurred right after updating to build 32 or it took some time for this issue to occur? Have you restarted your device after you noticed the issue?

Appreciate any details you can provide!
Ashley


Re: Beta 1.32

 

Hi Paul,

Thanks very much for your message. Some of the issues you're mentioning like entering a 3 letter word, flicking right and more letters being entered, as well as the flick right generally adding more letters gives me the feeling there are accidental taps happening. If you feel like you're typing the same as always, my next thought is whether you've restarted your devices recently? Sometimes issues can occur over time and a restart can resolve them.

As for the sounds, we will continue to make adjustments and improvements as we progress with the development of the app. We hope to get to a point where people can find a sweet spot that works well for them.

You're correct about the current editing shortcoming but we are currently building cursor control that will launch at the same time as the system-wide keyboard as we find this to be a very important feature in creating a fully functional typing experience.

Please let us know if you think of anything else!
Ashley


Re: Beta 1.32

 

Hi Gerardo,

To change the keyboard it is a 2-finger flick in either direction and not a 3-finger flick. Using a 3-finger flick in FlickType will give you random results as it is not an action in our keyboard.

Please let me know how it goes,
Ashley


Re: Beta 1.32

Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...>
 

Yes that's what I thought: before, it was easy to perform the three-finger left/right to switch between numbers, symbols, and letters. However with the most recent update, a letter is typed. I'm using an iPhone 5S with the latest iOS 11.3.

El 09/04/2018 a las 02:29 p.m., pdromey@... escribió:
        Hi Kosta and Ashley.
This is my first time being a beta tester for anything but, as a vision impaired former Flecksy user,  I am just so enthusiastic about flicktype that I wanted to get involved.
I have followed the recent beta versions from .28 to .32 and I welcome the increased options under settings.
In effect, when I sometimes, for example, type a three letter word and flick right, more letters are added instead of repeating the word I have chosen.
I am using both an SE with IOS 11.3 and an older iPad with ios 9.35.  The latter works well but there are some pronunciation issues obviously connected with it being so old.
I have noticed in the current beta a lack of sensitivity when flicking right, in that it sometimes types a letter instead of announcing the word.  This could, of course, be my error.  But it appears to happen quite a bit now and it never really did before, certainly not in Flecksy, or in the earlier betas .
It might be an idea to be able to turn the instructions option on or off in the menu.
To be honest , I don’t notice anything much of a diffdrence between the standard and alternative tap effects.  I think that allowing an on/off spelling option is an excellent idea, particularly when, like me, switching between the two languages.  My own preference here would be for the lower pitch.
I assume that, given the structure of Flicktype, it would not be possible to allow editing from beginning to end of a completed message/email or other document.  Obviously, one can read it using the word and character rotor options but not edit it, as far as I can gather.
I had some crash, and also mysterious switching into ios settings issues, on .28 but all is well since then.
But, all in all, I am absolutely delighted.
Paul
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Enviado desde Thunderbird


Hi Alan,

Chuck Dean
 

Hi Alan,
It sounds like you have joined the team... Which is good.
You have a good handle on this email situation.


Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400


FlickType Groups.io Email Operations Revisited was RE: [FlickType-alpha] Group settings

 

Hi List,



I'm replying to the below message but doing so to the hello@flicktype.groups.io group since this has to do with list admin and not alpha build issues.



The original flicktype@groups.io list was divided into subgroups in order to focus traffic related to alpha and beta builds into separate compartments. With this segregation, the developers were looking ahead to when the app is released and set up the hello@flicktype.groups.io subgroup for messages related to it and other general traffic. I believe if you post to the original flicktype address, it will automatically be routed from the hello subgroup but I'm not sure how this was accomplished.



Groups.io allows many operations to be set by sending blank emails to an appropriate address. This makes going to the website unnecessary and eases administration of your list subscription in my opinion to change things like delivery method, etc. As far as I'm aware, these email operations also work with subgroups in Groups.io provided you have the correct subgroup identifier.



Below is a list of email operations you can accomplish by sending a blank email with no subject to the listed address. I'm using the FlickType Alpha subgroup in this list as the subgroup on which the operation will be effective but you should be able to use these addresses for the hello and beta subgroups too by substituting those words where alpha occurs in the address below: Here's the list:



1. To subscribe: alpha+subscribe@flicktype.groups.io

2. To unsubscribe: alpha+unsubscribe@flicktype.groups.io

3. To get help: alpha+help@flicktype.groups.io

4. To go nomail: alpha+nomail@flicktype.groups.io

5. To go to digest delivery: alpha+digest@flicktype.groups.io

6. To go to full digest delivery: alpha+fulldigest@flicktype.groups.io

7. To return to single message delivery: alpha+single@flicktype.groups.io



I have my email client set to send in html format so that links will remain live so the above email addresses should open a new message ready to send in your email client. If not, they can be copied and pasted there.



If you have trouble with any of these email operations working, please post back and let us know. We're learning as we go.



Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----

From: alpha@flicktype.groups.io [mailto:alpha@flicktype.groups.io] On Behalf Of FlickType

Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 2:22 AM

To: alpha@flicktype.groups.io

Subject: Re: [FlickType-alpha] Group settings



I don't think you can change that by sending an email, but you can follow these steps:



1. Go to https://groups.io/sendloginlink and enter the email address that you are subscribed with.

2. Once you receive it, follow the login link in that email.

3. Select the group (eg flicktype alpha or beta).

4. If on mobile: Bottom right of the screen "More", then Subscription. If on laptop or desktop: "Subscription" on the right sidebar.

5. Change the "Email Delivery" option.



I should also note here that there's plenty of settings to customize from the web interface, as well as the ability to access all the message archives.



Hope this helps!


Re: Thanks Alan, I think i am getting it now

 

Dave,

Yes, my understanding is that the hello@flicktype.groups.io is now the general group. I also believe if you post to the original flicktype@groups.io that it will show as coming from the hello address automatically.

Alan Lemly from my iPhone

On Apr 9, 2018, at 5:50 PM, Dave <dave.beckett.uk@...> wrote:

So the Hello Address, is the General list?

Dave.



Beta 1.32

pdromey@...
 

        Hi Kosta and Ashley.
 
This is my first time being a beta tester for anything but, as a vision impaired former Flecksy user,  I am just so enthusiastic about flicktype that I wanted to get involved.
 
I have followed the recent beta versions from .28 to .32 and I welcome the increased options under settings. 
 
In effect, when I sometimes, for example, type a three letter word and flick right, more letters are added instead of repeating the word I have chosen.
I am using both an SE with IOS 11.3 and an older iPad with ios 9.35.  The latter works well but there are some pronunciation issues obviously connected with it being so old.   
 
I have noticed in the current beta a lack of sensitivity when flicking right, in that it sometimes types a letter instead of announcing the word.  This could, of course, be my error.  But it appears to happen quite a bit now and it never really did before, certainly not in Flecksy, or in the earlier betas . 
 
It might be an idea to be able to turn the instructions option on or off in the menu.
 
To be honest , I don’t notice anything much of a diffdrence between the standard and alternative tap effects.  I think that allowing an on/off spelling option is an excellent idea, particularly when, like me, switching between the two languages.  My own preference here would be for the lower pitch.
 
I assume that, given the structure of Flicktype, it would not be possible to allow editing from beginning to end of a completed message/email or other document.  Obviously, one can read it using the word and character rotor options but not edit it, as far as I can gather. 
 
I had some crash, and also mysterious switching into ios settings issues, on .28 but all is well since then. 
 
But, all in all, I am absolutely delighted.
 
Paul


Deletion clicks and latency

Benny Barber
 

I just started getting key click sounds when deleting. I have deletion sounds turned off. Also, there is some latency while typing that I have not experienced before. This has all just started after a day running build 32. I don't know what's up


Thanks Alan, I think i am getting it now

Dave <dave.beckett.uk@...>
 

So the Hello Address, is the General list?

Dave.


Re: Fluctuating volume levels.

Chamandeep Singh Grover <cmusic789@...>
 

Yes, I have.
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On 4/9/18, Benny Barber <rebelben@...> wrote:
Yes, mine seems to be fainter at the beginning of a new word.

On Apr 9, 2018, at 3:06 PM, Nozi <noziphokhanda@...> wrote:

Hi everyone
Is anyone else experiencing different volume levels of the keyboard
clicks while typing? The Keyboard goes loud and soft while
typing a word.






Re: How do you use FlickType?

 

Chuck,

I hold my iPhone 7 in my right hand and type in FlickType using my left
index finger. It works very well for me that way.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io [mailto:hello@flicktype.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 1:50 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: [flicktype] How do you use FlickType?

How do you use FlickType?
Hello everyone,
After a few hours of playing with FlickType I have found the best way, for
me, to use this keyboard is to hold it between my hands in landscape mode,
with my index fingers over the top, and I type with my two thumbs.
This allows me to hold the iPhone securely and type quickly. I The only
problem I had was inserting a new line, because to flick down with two
fingers I had to change my grip, and the new line button on the lower right
was a little too awkward for my aging thumbs.
But I found that I can flick down with both thumbs to get the same results.
The more I use this app, the better it gets!


Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe

Our 1961 Vespa 400


Re: just testing, if this old address still works

 

Dave,

Your message came through but it is listed as coming from
hello@flicktype.groups.io.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: hello@flicktype.groups.io [mailto:hello@flicktype.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Dave
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 1:05 PM
To: hello@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: [flicktype] just testing, if this old address still works