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Re: Accessing special characters like $,%,*,@?

Gordon
 

I don't currently have a watch, so I'm not familiar with how that works. But Chuck should see this soon and can answer your questions for you.

On 1/23/2020 7:56 PM, Kat Hayes wrote:
For clarification, I am talking about using my AppleWatch to access these symbols. When I double tap the screen I do not get access to these, unless I am doing it wrong?
Thanks 

Re: Accessing special characters like $,%,*,@?

Kat Hayes
 

For clarification, I am talking about using my AppleWatch to access these symbols. When I double tap the screen I do not get access to these, unless I am doing it wrong?
Thanks 

Re: Accessing special characters like $,%,*,@?

Gordon
 

You're going to want to double tap with two fingers to change to symbols. then explore the screen without lifting your finger until you have what you

re wanting to type. Then double tap with two fingers to return to letters.

On 1/23/2020 7:01 PM, Kat Hayes wrote:

I went through some of the video and am confused by the gestures. 

 

I am trying to access numbers and the symbols like @ # $ % * how is this done?

Thanks in advance

 

Accessing special characters like $,%,*,@?

Kat Hayes
 

I went through some of the video and am confused by the gestures. 

 

I am trying to access numbers and the symbols like @ # $ % * how is this done?

Thanks in advance

 

Re: Apple watch app feedback

JP Shandra
 

Hello,
I agree that it takes a bit of practice. Now I get it every time. It’s almost center top on my Series 5.
Best,
JP

On Jan 23, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:


Hello Jessica,
I have found that finding the upper left corner of my watch, placing my finger here until I hear send, and then double tapping works well for me. With a little practice, I am sure this will become second nature to you.
Good loch, 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Jan 23, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:


Hi,
I have some feedbacm regarding the Apple watch flicktype app.

I'm using an Apple watch series 4.

When I'm typing, and am ready to send it as a text-message, attempting to double-tap the send button results in unwanted characters.

As a result, may I suggest that you move the send button back to the force touch menu?

Thanks,
Jessica



Re: Apple watch app feedback

Chuck Dean
 

Hello Jessica,
I have found that finding the upper left corner of my watch, placing my finger here until I hear send, and then double tapping works well for me. With a little practice, I am sure this will become second nature to you.
Good loch, 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Jan 23, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:


Hi,
I have some feedbacm regarding the Apple watch flicktype app.

I'm using an Apple watch series 4.

When I'm typing, and am ready to send it as a text-message, attempting to double-tap the send button results in unwanted characters.

As a result, may I suggest that you move the send button back to the force touch menu?

Thanks,
Jessica



Apple watch app feedback

Jessica D
 

Hi,
I have some feedbacm regarding the Apple watch flicktype app.

I'm using an Apple watch series 4.

When I'm typing, and am ready to send it as a text-message, attempting to double-tap the send button results in unwanted characters.

As a result, may I suggest that you move the send button back to the force touch menu?

Thanks,
Jessica

Re: Combining touch and flick typing

Benny Barber
 

Randy, let me make sure I understand what you are doing. It appears that you are manually typing a word that is not in your dictionary. When you manually type a word, after the last letter that you type, you should flick right and the word will be entered with a space after it. If you flick right a second time, punctuation will be entered after the word rather than a space. Hope that helps.
Benny

On Jan 22, 2020, at 10:05 AM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

I use touch typing when I need to use a word but contained in the FlickType dictionary. But then When I flick right to put in In a space and ready the way for my next word to flick,. I get a punctuation mark. How can I correct that?


Combining touch and flick typing

Randy Borst
 

I use touch typing when I need to use a word but contained in the FlickType dictionary. But then When I flick right to put in In a space and ready the way for my next word to flick,. I get a punctuation mark. How can I correct that?

Re: FlickType question or suggestion

JP Shandra
 

Hey Randy,
Glad to hear you got it figured out. Happy typing!
Best,
JP

On Jan 19, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1@...> wrote:

I have solved my problem with being unable to bring up the FlickType keyboard. My error was that I wasn't holding down the second tap long enough to bring up the context menu. I have it now as went default keyboard...                                               


On Jan 19, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Harry Bell via Groups.Io <ubupanoramix@...> wrote:


I am using standard typing with FlickType and VoiceOver as I type this email.
Harry                

On 19 Jan 2020, at 15:02, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:

Hello
touch typing or direct touch must be enabled for Flicktype to work. Use the rotor and select touch typing or direct touch   

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Jan 19, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1@...> wrote:



Thanks JP,


I did verify "full access," though the Apple note under that setting indicates that it is for purposes of allowing the developer to transmit all the information I type, including passwords and addresses. That doesn't trouble me in this case, but still, I don't think that has anything to do with the keyboard's having access to the user.


Anyhow, it doesn't matter how I have that setting. I still can't get the keyboard up anymore. Once, when I tap the next keyboard button, the iPhone said "Flick type." The keyboard didn't come up though.


I tried deleting the app and reinstalling it, and that didn't work either.


I thought maybe the problem started when I installed flick type on my Apple Watch, but removing it from there didn't change anything either.


Does anyone have any more suggestions?



On Jan 18, 2020, at 1:36 PM, JP Shandra <blindambition777@...> wrote:


Hi Randy,
Check to see that Full Access is enabled in Keyboards under Settings. Also, make sure that you are either using Touch or Direct Touch typing. Restart device. HTH
Best,
JP

On Jan 18, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1@...> wrote:



I am new to the group, so please excuse me if I am asking a common question that is frequently repeated.


I have been a subscriber for some time, but hadn't used the app in a couple months or so. Now, suddenly, I can't get the Flicktype keyboard to come up. The "swipe up and hold" gesture doesn't work, and the keyboard is not in my keyboard rotor. The rotor just goes from the regular English keyboard to emoji keyboard and then back.


I have the latest production version and I keep my iOS versions up to date automatically.


Thanks,

Randy Borst

Amherst, New York


Re: FlickType question or suggestion

Randy Borst
 

I have solved my problem with being unable to bring up the FlickType keyboard. My error was that I wasn't holding down the second tap long enough to bring up the context menu. I have it now as went default keyboard...                                               


On Jan 19, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Harry Bell via Groups.Io <ubupanoramix@...> wrote:


I am using standard typing with FlickType and VoiceOver as I type this email.
Harry                

On 19 Jan 2020, at 15:02, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:

Hello
touch typing or direct touch must be enabled for Flicktype to work. Use the rotor and select touch typing or direct touch   

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Jan 19, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1@...> wrote:



Thanks JP,


I did verify "full access," though the Apple note under that setting indicates that it is for purposes of allowing the developer to transmit all the information I type, including passwords and addresses. That doesn't trouble me in this case, but still, I don't think that has anything to do with the keyboard's having access to the user.


Anyhow, it doesn't matter how I have that setting. I still can't get the keyboard up anymore. Once, when I tap the next keyboard button, the iPhone said "Flick type." The keyboard didn't come up though.


I tried deleting the app and reinstalling it, and that didn't work either.


I thought maybe the problem started when I installed flick type on my Apple Watch, but removing it from there didn't change anything either.


Does anyone have any more suggestions?



On Jan 18, 2020, at 1:36 PM, JP Shandra <blindambition777@...> wrote:


Hi Randy,
Check to see that Full Access is enabled in Keyboards under Settings. Also, make sure that you are either using Touch or Direct Touch typing. Restart device. HTH
Best,
JP

On Jan 18, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1@...> wrote:



I am new to the group, so please excuse me if I am asking a common question that is frequently repeated.


I have been a subscriber for some time, but hadn't used the app in a couple months or so. Now, suddenly, I can't get the Flicktype keyboard to come up. The "swipe up and hold" gesture doesn't work, and the keyboard is not in my keyboard rotor. The rotor just goes from the regular English keyboard to emoji keyboard and then back.


I have the latest production version and I keep my iOS versions up to date automatically.


Thanks,

Randy Borst

Amherst, New York


Re: Suggestion & Question

Chuck Dean
 

BTW do to Apple limitations text replacements do not work in the FlickType container app, they only work while using flicktype in other text fields. 

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Shaun P. <shaunjp@...> wrote:

Hi, I'm new here so sorry if I'm posting in wrong place. :)
Firstly, I'm unable to get the text replacement function to work? I've set it to on in the settings and the text replacements I've already got defined work fine in the standard iOS keyboard, but not in FlickType.
Is there a trick to it? I'm tapping out the replacement shortcut a character at a time and then swiping to the right with one finger but nothing is replaced.

Thanks,

Now for a suggestion. I've noticed the 3 finger swipe to move forward or back a line at a time is inconsistant or just not working at all in some places. How about ditching the gesture altogether and simply have a 2 finger swipe and hold to jump through each word at a high speed? I think that when FlickType is in standard size mode there is more of a chance of pushing focus outside of the keyboard with 3 finger gestures. Just my 2 cents.

And while I'm at it... For FlickType on the Apple Watch, the swipe down to read what you've typed really throws me out. After using the iOS version for so long, swiping down for word alternatives is now muscle memory. Keeping as many gestures consistant between platforms would be cool.

Thanks and keep up the good work!

Re: Suggestion & Question

Chuck Dean
 

Hello,
After you enter your shortcut for the text replacement, flick right. If this isn't correct, flick down until the suggestion is correct.
I find that when I manually type my two letter shortcuts, the proper text replacement is one or two suggestions down. If you type the two letter shortcut using your regular typing style often the text replacement will be first. Also, if you manually type the two letter shortcut it will be entered into the dictionary and then will always be the first suggestion.☹️

The two and three finger navigation have been problematic in iOS 13, and the developer is aware of this problem. It may be fixed in the next update.

The change to the watch app for suggestion selection was to improve consistency with the flicktype app for the visually impaired and for flicktype notes app which is aimed at the sighted community to generate funds to keep flicktype alive!

I agree, I have been flicking down for other suggestions, but I am sure I will eventually use the digital crown. It's just a new learning curve... But worth it in the long run.

Have a great day!👍  

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Shaun P. <shaunjp@...> wrote:

Hi, I'm new here so sorry if I'm posting in wrong place. :)
Firstly, I'm unable to get the text replacement function to work? I've set it to on in the settings and the text replacements I've already got defined work fine in the standard iOS keyboard, but not in FlickType.
Is there a trick to it? I'm tapping out the replacement shortcut a character at a time and then swiping to the right with one finger but nothing is replaced.

Thanks,

Now for a suggestion. I've noticed the 3 finger swipe to move forward or back a line at a time is inconsistant or just not working at all in some places. How about ditching the gesture altogether and simply have a 2 finger swipe and hold to jump through each word at a high speed? I think that when FlickType is in standard size mode there is more of a chance of pushing focus outside of the keyboard with 3 finger gestures. Just my 2 cents.

And while I'm at it... For FlickType on the Apple Watch, the swipe down to read what you've typed really throws me out. After using the iOS version for so long, swiping down for word alternatives is now muscle memory. Keeping as many gestures consistant between platforms would be cool.

Thanks and keep up the good work!

Suggestion & Question

Shaun P.
 

Hi, I'm new here so sorry if I'm posting in wrong place. :)
Firstly, I'm unable to get the text replacement function to work? I've set it to on in the settings and the text replacements I've already got defined work fine in the standard iOS keyboard, but not in FlickType.
Is there a trick to it? I'm tapping out the replacement shortcut a character at a time and then swiping to the right with one finger but nothing is replaced.

Thanks,

Now for a suggestion. I've noticed the 3 finger swipe to move forward or back a line at a time is inconsistant or just not working at all in some places. How about ditching the gesture altogether and simply have a 2 finger swipe and hold to jump through each word at a high speed? I think that when FlickType is in standard size mode there is more of a chance of pushing focus outside of the keyboard with 3 finger gestures. Just my 2 cents.

And while I'm at it... For FlickType on the Apple Watch, the swipe down to read what you've typed really throws me out. After using the iOS version for so long, swiping down for word alternatives is now muscle memory. Keeping as many gestures consistant between platforms would be cool.

Thanks and keep up the good work!

Re: FlickType question or suggestion

Daniel McGee
 

Did you try deleting the keyboard from the keyboard list? Then add it again afterwards.

 

On 19 Jan 2020, at 15:57, Harry Bell via Groups.Io <ubupanoramix@...> wrote:

I am using standard typing with FlickType and VoiceOver as I type this email.
Harry                

On 19 Jan 2020, at 15:02, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:

Hello
touch typing or direct touch must be enabled for Flicktype to work. Use the rotor and select touch typing or direct touch   

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Jan 19, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1@...> wrote:



Thanks JP,


I did verify "full access," though the Apple note under that setting indicates that it is for purposes of allowing the developer to transmit all the information I type, including passwords and addresses. That doesn't trouble me in this case, but still, I don't think that has anything to do with the keyboard's having access to the user.


Anyhow, it doesn't matter how I have that setting. I still can't get the keyboard up anymore. Once, when I tap the next keyboard button, the iPhone said "Flick type." The keyboard didn't come up though.


I tried deleting the app and reinstalling it, and that didn't work either.


I thought maybe the problem started when I installed flick type on my Apple Watch, but removing it from there didn't change anything either.


Does anyone have any more suggestions?



On Jan 18, 2020, at 1:36 PM, JP Shandra <blindambition777@...> wrote:


Hi Randy,
Check to see that Full Access is enabled in Keyboards under Settings. Also, make sure that you are either using Touch or Direct Touch typing. Restart device. HTH
Best,
JP

On Jan 18, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1@...> wrote:



I am new to the group, so please excuse me if I am asking a common question that is frequently repeated.


I have been a subscriber for some time, but hadn't used the app in a couple months or so. Now, suddenly, I can't get the Flicktype keyboard to come up. The "swipe up and hold" gesture doesn't work, and the keyboard is not in my keyboard rotor. The rotor just goes from the regular English keyboard to emoji keyboard and then back.


I have the latest production version and I keep my iOS versions up to date automatically.


Thanks,

Randy Borst

Amherst, New York


Re: FlickType question or suggestion

Harry Bell
 

I am using standard typing with FlickType and VoiceOver as I type this email.
Harry                

On 19 Jan 2020, at 15:02, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:

Hello
touch typing or direct touch must be enabled for Flicktype to work. Use the rotor and select touch typing or direct touch   

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Jan 19, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1@...> wrote:



Thanks JP,


I did verify "full access," though the Apple note under that setting indicates that it is for purposes of allowing the developer to transmit all the information I type, including passwords and addresses. That doesn't trouble me in this case, but still, I don't think that has anything to do with the keyboard's having access to the user.


Anyhow, it doesn't matter how I have that setting. I still can't get the keyboard up anymore. Once, when I tap the next keyboard button, the iPhone said "Flick type." The keyboard didn't come up though.


I tried deleting the app and reinstalling it, and that didn't work either.


I thought maybe the problem started when I installed flick type on my Apple Watch, but removing it from there didn't change anything either.


Does anyone have any more suggestions?



On Jan 18, 2020, at 1:36 PM, JP Shandra <blindambition777@...> wrote:


Hi Randy,
Check to see that Full Access is enabled in Keyboards under Settings. Also, make sure that you are either using Touch or Direct Touch typing. Restart device. HTH
Best,
JP

On Jan 18, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1@...> wrote:



I am new to the group, so please excuse me if I am asking a common question that is frequently repeated.


I have been a subscriber for some time, but hadn't used the app in a couple months or so. Now, suddenly, I can't get the Flicktype keyboard to come up. The "swipe up and hold" gesture doesn't work, and the keyboard is not in my keyboard rotor. The rotor just goes from the regular English keyboard to emoji keyboard and then back.


I have the latest production version and I keep my iOS versions up to date automatically.


Thanks,

Randy Borst

Amherst, New York


Re: FlickType question or suggestion

Chuck Dean
 

Hello
touch typing or direct touch must be enabled for Flicktype to work. Use the rotor and select touch typing or direct touch   

Chuck  (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


On Jan 19, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1@...> wrote:



Thanks JP,


I did verify "full access," though the Apple note under that setting indicates that it is for purposes of allowing the developer to transmit all the information I type, including passwords and addresses. That doesn't trouble me in this case, but still, I don't think that has anything to do with the keyboard's having access to the user.


Anyhow, it doesn't matter how I have that setting. I still can't get the keyboard up anymore. Once, when I tap the next keyboard button, the iPhone said "Flick type." The keyboard didn't come up though.


I tried deleting the app and reinstalling it, and that didn't work either.


I thought maybe the problem started when I installed flick type on my Apple Watch, but removing it from there didn't change anything either.


Does anyone have any more suggestions?



On Jan 18, 2020, at 1:36 PM, JP Shandra <blindambition777@...> wrote:


Hi Randy,
Check to see that Full Access is enabled in Keyboards under Settings. Also, make sure that you are either using Touch or Direct Touch typing. Restart device. HTH
Best,
JP

On Jan 18, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1@...> wrote:



I am new to the group, so please excuse me if I am asking a common question that is frequently repeated.


I have been a subscriber for some time, but hadn't used the app in a couple months or so. Now, suddenly, I can't get the Flicktype keyboard to come up. The "swipe up and hold" gesture doesn't work, and the keyboard is not in my keyboard rotor. The rotor just goes from the regular English keyboard to emoji keyboard and then back.


I have the latest production version and I keep my iOS versions up to date automatically.


Thanks,

Randy Borst

Amherst, New York


Re: FlickType question or suggestion

Randy Borst
 


Thanks JP,


I did verify "full access," though the Apple note under that setting indicates that it is for purposes of allowing the developer to transmit all the information I type, including passwords and addresses. That doesn't trouble me in this case, but still, I don't think that has anything to do with the keyboard's having access to the user.


Anyhow, it doesn't matter how I have that setting. I still can't get the keyboard up anymore. Once, when I tap the next keyboard button, the iPhone said "Flick type." The keyboard didn't come up though.


I tried deleting the app and reinstalling it, and that didn't work either.


I thought maybe the problem started when I installed flick type on my Apple Watch, but removing it from there didn't change anything either.


Does anyone have any more suggestions?



On Jan 18, 2020, at 1:36 PM, JP Shandra <blindambition777@...> wrote:


Hi Randy,
Check to see that Full Access is enabled in Keyboards under Settings. Also, make sure that you are either using Touch or Direct Touch typing. Restart device. HTH
Best,
JP

On Jan 18, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Randy Borst via Groups.Io <Reborst1@...> wrote:



I am new to the group, so please excuse me if I am asking a common question that is frequently repeated.


I have been a subscriber for some time, but hadn't used the app in a couple months or so. Now, suddenly, I can't get the Flicktype keyboard to come up. The "swipe up and hold" gesture doesn't work, and the keyboard is not in my keyboard rotor. The rotor just goes from the regular English keyboard to emoji keyboard and then back.


I have the latest production version and I keep my iOS versions up to date automatically.


Thanks,

Randy Borst

Amherst, New York


Re: Build 236

Ed Worrell
 

Yeah, I'm not having many issues either. It's lost just putting spaces between letters on manually typed WordsTie and outlook has its issues.

Ed                               


On Jan 18, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Shawn Krasniuk via Groups.Io <bbsshawn@...> wrote:

Hi all. I'm probably the only one here who isn't experiencing any of the issues that people are raising on this group. While in Messages, everything speaks the way it always did since day 1, meaning punctuations are being spoken. As for Safari, the only thing I do on that are Google searches for things. I don't use Flicktype for that though as when I've done searches with it in the past, Voiceover acts like I'm not putting spaces between my words, which I am. I don't do emails on my phone so I can't tell if everything's broken on my end with that. If I have to send an email, I just wait until I go to my computer as I find that even though I'm using FlickType, it's still a pain to type long strings of text on the phone.
However, the only issue here that I'm experiencing is Flicktype being inaccurate. It takes me sometimes three or four tries before it finally gets it right. Sometimes I give up and just type the word in manually because it's so annoying. But other than that, everything's good. This is with build 236 running iOS 13.3.1 dev beta 2.

Regards,
Shawn,
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On Jan 18, 2020, at 8:40 AM, JP Shandra <blindambition777@...> wrote:

Hello Kosta,
Adding on to Salman, I’ve experienced on Amazon, Safari, Target, WordPress, and some sites that would only relate to me.
It really throws me off not having word pronounced, or getting partial word. My brain just isn’t processing or adapting to build 236. I switched to the public 5.2. It’s solved many of my issues for the most part.
Best,
JP

On Jan 18, 2020, at 5:47 AM, Salman Haider <salmanhaider.purdue@...> wrote:



Hi Kosta,

 

Wanted to give some feedback regarding the latest beta, and various bugs that I have been encountering. Yes, this is specifically pertaining to the 236 release.

 

Firstly, and this is not really a bug, one thing I’ve noticed is the higher pitch of Voiceover speech when I tap type and swipe right to get the word that I’ve typed. Voiceover now announces that word in a higher pitch than it ever has before.

 

Now, to the bugs…

 

I for one, have encountered bugs while typing in all types of fields and in various apps. So the behavior is not limited to a certain app or type of field. Among the apps that I have encountered these bugs are Whatsapp, Messages, Mail, Safari, Google, Facebook, Messenger, Amazon, and so on…

 

In regular text fields, while I am typing, when I tap type and swipe right, I hear the word that I’ve tried to type (as I should). However, if I swipe right again to insert a punctuation, like a period, Voiceover simply repeats the previous word that I had typed. Even though, a period has actually been inserted.

 

Next, I have encountered the bugs that both Ed and JP have already mentioned in prior messages under this thread. “The keyboard doesn’t announce the word or punctuation options/suggestions when flicking up or down”, and, also the bug where “when I type a word, it says space, followed by spelling the word. If I delete the last word, it says beginning of document.”

Unlike Ed and JP however, I have encountered these bugs outside of Outlook. I don’t even have Outlook on my device. I have encountered them in Safari, Whatsapp, the Google app, etc.

 

Typing in multi-line text fields is almost impossible for me at this point. Whatever I tap type is either repeated twice, or is repeated twice with a sort of a stutter with Voiceover sometimes stuttering on the first part of the word, and sometimes on the last part of the word. I will try and explain this with an example. I was trying to type the following sentence: This version definitely seems to have some bugs.

Here are two variations of how Voiceover feedback has sounded like after I have tried typing each of those words while composing that sentence:

 
  1. ThisThis VerVersion DefDefinitely se eems seems to ha-have SomeSome bugs
  2. Th-This ersion initely se-eems to he-ave so-ome bugs.

 

Swiping left either doesn’t do anything, or simply deletes the last word I typed, and I can’t delete anything past that. Tapping and holding in the top half of the screen to have the typed text repeated back, does nothing either.
In addition, at various points during the typing experience, I am not able to swipe up or down to go through the suggestions as the same word keeps getting repeated over and over. Or, swiping up or down produces the "ding" Voiceover sound that suggests that I have reached the top or bottom of the list. The issue with the punctuation also occurs here too; not able to either swipe through the list of punctuation, or the same one is repeated over and over

  

I hope this gives you some idea and my explanation makes some sense. Basically, I have been encountering a lot of bugs with this new 236 release, and I have to revert back to an earlier version for a smoother and seamless typing experience.

Salman


Re: Build 236

Shawn Krasniuk
 

Hi all. I'm probably the only one here who isn't experiencing any of the issues that people are raising on this group. While in Messages, everything speaks the way it always did since day 1, meaning punctuations are being spoken. As for Safari, the only thing I do on that are Google searches for things. I don't use Flicktype for that though as when I've done searches with it in the past, Voiceover acts like I'm not putting spaces between my words, which I am. I don't do emails on my phone so I can't tell if everything's broken on my end with that. If I have to send an email, I just wait until I go to my computer as I find that even though I'm using FlickType, it's still a pain to type long strings of text on the phone.
However, the only issue here that I'm experiencing is Flicktype being inaccurate. It takes me sometimes three or four tries before it finally gets it right. Sometimes I give up and just type the word in manually because it's so annoying. But other than that, everything's good. This is with build 236 running iOS 13.3.1 dev beta 2.

Regards,
Shawn,
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On Jan 18, 2020, at 8:40 AM, JP Shandra <blindambition777@...> wrote:

Hello Kosta,
Adding on to Salman, I’ve experienced on Amazon, Safari, Target, WordPress, and some sites that would only relate to me.
It really throws me off not having word pronounced, or getting partial word. My brain just isn’t processing or adapting to build 236. I switched to the public 5.2. It’s solved many of my issues for the most part.
Best,
JP

On Jan 18, 2020, at 5:47 AM, Salman Haider <salmanhaider.purdue@...> wrote:



Hi Kosta,

 

Wanted to give some feedback regarding the latest beta, and various bugs that I have been encountering. Yes, this is specifically pertaining to the 236 release.

 

Firstly, and this is not really a bug, one thing I’ve noticed is the higher pitch of Voiceover speech when I tap type and swipe right to get the word that I’ve typed. Voiceover now announces that word in a higher pitch than it ever has before.

 

Now, to the bugs…

 

I for one, have encountered bugs while typing in all types of fields and in various apps. So the behavior is not limited to a certain app or type of field. Among the apps that I have encountered these bugs are Whatsapp, Messages, Mail, Safari, Google, Facebook, Messenger, Amazon, and so on…

 

In regular text fields, while I am typing, when I tap type and swipe right, I hear the word that I’ve tried to type (as I should). However, if I swipe right again to insert a punctuation, like a period, Voiceover simply repeats the previous word that I had typed. Even though, a period has actually been inserted.

 

Next, I have encountered the bugs that both Ed and JP have already mentioned in prior messages under this thread. “The keyboard doesn’t announce the word or punctuation options/suggestions when flicking up or down”, and, also the bug where “when I type a word, it says space, followed by spelling the word. If I delete the last word, it says beginning of document.”

Unlike Ed and JP however, I have encountered these bugs outside of Outlook. I don’t even have Outlook on my device. I have encountered them in Safari, Whatsapp, the Google app, etc.

 

Typing in multi-line text fields is almost impossible for me at this point. Whatever I tap type is either repeated twice, or is repeated twice with a sort of a stutter with Voiceover sometimes stuttering on the first part of the word, and sometimes on the last part of the word. I will try and explain this with an example. I was trying to type the following sentence: This version definitely seems to have some bugs.

Here are two variations of how Voiceover feedback has sounded like after I have tried typing each of those words while composing that sentence:

 
  1. ThisThis VerVersion DefDefinitely se eems seems to ha-have SomeSome bugs
  2. Th-This ersion initely se-eems to he-ave so-ome bugs.

 

Swiping left either doesn’t do anything, or simply deletes the last word I typed, and I can’t delete anything past that. Tapping and holding in the top half of the screen to have the typed text repeated back, does nothing either.
In addition, at various points during the typing experience, I am not able to swipe up or down to go through the suggestions as the same word keeps getting repeated over and over. Or, swiping up or down produces the "ding" Voiceover sound that suggests that I have reached the top or bottom of the list. The issue with the punctuation also occurs here too; not able to either swipe through the list of punctuation, or the same one is repeated over and over

  

I hope this gives you some idea and my explanation makes some sense. Basically, I have been encountering a lot of bugs with this new 236 release, and I have to revert back to an earlier version for a smoother and seamless typing experience.

Salman