Some Questions

Chuck Dean

Ok, my bad. If I type a word, then flick up, I only hear the word repeated. 

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On Mar 10, 2019, at 10:34 AM, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:

Hello David,
I am not saying these gestures are complicated. With the exception of the flick right, every gesture in FlickType does one operation, which is very deliberate. 
I can see where someone may be typing and want to enter a😎 and does a flick up to enter the emoji before they flicked right, and then getting a tone, or FlickType saying, that word already exist. That is where the confusion may come into play.

At the very least, I would suggest, if this gesture is implemented, that it would be on a toggle, and off by default. 

Chuck  (mobile)
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On Mar 10, 2019, at 10:02 AM, David Nason <dnason@...> wrote:

I totally disagree that these would be over complicated. They are gestures that are completely optional. If the user doesn't want to use them, they don't have to,  and if you don't want to teach them, that's up to you. I really don't see how they are any more complicated than any other gesture, and in fact, they have quite a logical feel to them.
Is FlickType really supposed to be a simple keyboard as you suggest? I think it's very much one that should, and does, cater to advanced users as well. It can be both.

Some of us prefer not to have the shift key and spacebar row on screen, to have a cleaner keyboard, which also makes manual typing easier.

So it seems we have to agree to differ on this one ☺️ 

On 10 Mar 2019, at 16:34, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:

Again I worry about confusion whenever a gesture has more than one function.
I train many senior citizens, who have recently lost vision do to age related macular degeneration on iPhone operation, and gestures that have more than one function throws them off. Even the three finger swipe down on the iPhone screen, which will either open the notification center, or a search function depending on where the initial focus is can be confusing.
 Some find flicking right to insert the word just typed in FlickType and then another flick right to insert punctuation takes a while to understand. I don't even tell them about the punctuation and symbols panel until they are fairly comfortable with flicktype.
I feel the more simple FlickType is, the better. And app like this can get bogged down with too many gestures. 
I personally let flicktype automatically enter new words, and I enter a lot of words. At this time my dictionary has 1213 words in it, and that is after a major clean up. I doubt I would ever use a gesture to enter a word into the dictionary, but if one is needed, I would prefer a dedicated gesture like a two finger swipe up, considering that most people really do not enter that many words into the dictionary. 

Chuck  (mobile)
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On Mar 10, 2019, at 5:43 AM, David Nason <dnason@...> wrote:

Hi Benny,

What I actually had in mind is that you would swipe up after manually typing a letter to capitalize it. Currently you 3D touch when manually typing a letter to capitalize it, but I'm just concerned about devices that don't have the 3D touch feature.

So there would be no interference with punctuation.

It's just one idea though ☺️

On 10 Mar 2019, at 11:07, Benny Barber <benny.barber55@...> wrote:

I like some of the suggestions, but I see a problem with flicking up to
capitalize a letter.  If one has just entered a comma and wants to
capitalize the next word by flicking up, this jesture would simply change
the comma to a period.  Am I understanding what is being suggested with the
flick up jesture to capitalize?  Just thinking.  Thanks.


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Subject: Re: [FlickType-alpha] Some Questions

I too like the suggestion of being able to add a word manually to the
dictionary by using a one finger swipe up gesture (like it used to be
in the initial Flicktype days).
I also don't think that it would be more confusing as Dave correctly
pointed out, that gesture at this point does not do anything.
Therefore, if anything, it would simply be an addition to the existing
functionality and only be used by users who actually prefer adding
words to the dictionary that way.
To reduce any confusion,  the existing method of manually adding words
to the dictionary should also be kept.

I also like the suggestion of adding a one finger swipe up gesture to
capitalize a letter, and that does not have anything to do with 3D
touch. Simply more convenient in my opinion.


On 3/8/19, David Nason <dnason@...> wrote:
I don't see why that would be. It's no more confusing than any other
I don't think...
On 7 Mar 2019, at 20:58, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:

Good point... But the only problem I see, and its a minor point, is there
may be some confusion among the less tech savy users.

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On Mar 7, 2019, at 1:22 PM, David Nason <dnason@...> wrote:

Hi Chuck,

I could live with a two finger swipe, though always prefer one.
The way I see it though, this would not affect the very important
function that you mention. After manually typing a word, the first swipe
right just confirms the word, a swipe down gives you alternative
suggestions, while a swipe up does nothing. Emoji and punctuation
a second swipe right.


On 7 Mar 2019, at 19:06, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:

Hi David,
Would a two finger swipe up to enter manually typed words into the
dictionary work for you ?
I would hate to lose the single finger swipe up for emoji, and the
down for punctuation.

Chuck  (mobile)
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On Mar 7, 2019, at 11:27 AM, David Nason <dnason@...> wrote:

Hi Kosta and Ashley,

I hope you're well.

Firstly, thanks for adding the ability to clear out the dictionary, it
is very helpful.
However I am now in a bit of a bind. I don't want to switch on the
automatic adding of manually typed words, because as mentioned, it
messy. But the requirement to go into the app to add words manually is
a pain honestly. So I wondered if you could add back the ability to
words manually while typing? Previously this was done with a swipe up
after confirming the word, which worked well.

I also wonder if you might consider bringing back the one finger swipe
up to capitalize a letter? The reason I ask is that the iPhone X R
not have 3D Touch, and it seems very possible that Apple will kill the
feature entirely.
Your implementation of 3D Touch is the best I've seen, and the only
thing I would really miss! I'm probably going to get the next version
of the XR this year, and would hate to lose the ability to type as I
now, I don't like the two finger tap method at all.

My final question is kinda from left field...
Are you by any chance considering taking FlickType across to Android?