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Re: Build 152

David Nason
 


Hi Kosta, 

I love the half screen mode. I really hope you can find a way to implement it with VoiceOver active. 

A couple of small points about the self voiced feature when VoiceOver is off: 
It does not seem to announce when you go to a new line. 
If I were using it full time, I would want the ability to change the voice if possible. As it stands it is using the system voice, which is based on your location. For me, that's the truly awful Maire voice for Ireland ☺️ 

George, there is an option in settings to have the voice on or off. 

Dave 



On 16 Aug 2018, at 20:07, George Cham <George.cham@...> wrote:

Hi costa.
Like the half screen option without voiceover.
However, when I finish typing text, do I need to return to full screen inorder for text to show up in the text box?
Also, I'm getting typing feedback from iOS when typing without voiceover on

Kind regards,

George Cham

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From: 32471000360n behalf of
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 4:58 am
To: Alpha
Subject: [FlickType-alpha] Build 152
 
Hi Kosta,
I am trying the half screen keyboard under my CCTV. I worms well and is exactly what I would want for a FlickType option... if it could be used with VoiceOver.
Thanks for another great build,
Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Re: Build 152

Ed Worrell
 

I actually was using the half screen keyboard to reply to a text message and I like it. Is there anyway to just ignore Voiceover while gestures are being performed in the keyboard? I noticed that your using the voice API that is set aside for Zoom users. This is great. It would almost work perfectly it Voiceover could be ignored whilst your typing, then Voiceover could interact with the screen above like it would normally. 

This built really has me hopeful. 

Thanks again, 
Ed 


On Aug 16, 2018, at 12:39 PM, FlickType <hello@...> wrote:

Thank you Ed. There's quite a few changes under the hood so I'm hoping that I didn't break anything.

The half-screen mode will be enabled automatically when VoiceOver is disabled. There is currently no option to activate, but toggling VoiceOver will toggle between full and half screen modes.

Kosta

Re: Build 152

George Cham
 

Hi costa.
Like the half screen option without voiceover.
However, when I finish typing text, do I need to return to full screen inorder for text to show up in the text box?
Also, I'm getting typing feedback from iOS when typing without voiceover on

Kind regards,

George Cham

‘May the Lord bless you and protect you. May the Lord smile on you and be gracious to you. May the Lord show you his favor and give you his peace.’
Numbers 6:24-26
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From: 32471000360n behalf of
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 4:58 am
To: Alpha
Subject: [FlickType-alpha] Build 152
 
Hi Kosta,
I am trying the half screen keyboard under my CCTV. I worms well and is exactly what I would want for a FlickType option... if it could be used with VoiceOver.
Thanks for another great build,
Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.


Build 152

Chuck Dean
 

Hi Kosta,
I am trying the half screen keyboard under my CCTV. I worms well and is exactly what I would want for a FlickType option... if it could be used with VoiceOver.
Thanks for another great build,
Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Re: Build 152

Ed Worrell
 

Hey Kosta, 

Thanks for the quick reply. I will have my business partner give it a try and give feedback. 

Ed 


On Aug 16, 2018, at 12:39 PM, FlickType <hello@...> wrote:

Thank you Ed. There's quite a few changes under the hood so I'm hoping that I didn't break anything.

The half-screen mode will be enabled automatically when VoiceOver is disabled. There is currently no option to activate, but toggling VoiceOver will toggle between full and half screen modes.

Kosta

Re: Build 152

 

Thank you Ed. There's quite a few changes under the hood so I'm hoping that I didn't break anything.

The half-screen mode will be enabled automatically when VoiceOver is disabled. There is currently no option to activate, but toggling VoiceOver will toggle between full and half screen modes.

Kosta

Re: Build 152

Ed Worrell
 

Hello,


As always solid build. So I can have my business partner take a look at the half screen option. How would you go about activating it? Does VoiceOver not see the toggle?

Thanks,

Ed

On Aug 16, 2018, at 12:10 PM, FlickType <@FlickType> wrote:

- New half-screen, direct-commit mode where all text changes are instantly reflected in the current text field. This currently only works for non-VoiceOver users due to iOS limitations, but we are still looking for ways to bring it to VoiceOver users as well.
- The "Next keyboard" key and setting will be hidden on devices that have a dedicated, always-present "Next keyboard" key (such as the iPhone X), or if FlickType is the only keyboard in the keyboard list.
- Bugfixes.


Build 152

 

- New half-screen, direct-commit mode where all text changes are instantly reflected in the current text field. This currently only works for non-VoiceOver users due to iOS limitations, but we are still looking for ways to bring it to VoiceOver users as well.
- The "Next keyboard" key and setting will be hidden on devices that have a dedicated, always-present "Next keyboard" key (such as the iPhone X), or if FlickType is the only keyboard in the keyboard list.
- Bugfixes.

Re: Build 151, running good.

 

Hi Chuck,

Glad to hear! Kosta says he did not remove that feature, at least not intentionally. So I say it must be running that well. Wink.

Cheers!
Ashley

Re: Build 151

Chanelle Allen
 

Hello,
I agree that a spellback gesture or setting to enable spelling for reading back or hearing word alternatives would be helpful. If I pause, sometimes hearing a spelling interrupts my train of thought, and sometimes, when flicking through word suggestions, hearing the spelling is good for clarification of certain letters. I do appreciate being able to hear spellings as I read by word. The new text replacement feature is also great--especially for emojis 👍 ☺️
Chanelle

On Aug 12, 2018, at 21:01, Ed Worrell via Groups.Io <ed.worrell=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello

I agree as well. I would like to see a gesture to have the word spelled back to me. I usually type enough that the spelling doesn't get in the way. It can get annoying if you have to take a small pause to think before you type a word.

Thanks and great job with the last couple of builds.

Ed Worrell
On Aug 12, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Sharon Kim <sharon.mi.kim22@...> wrote:

I absolutely agree with Benny herre.
Another thing that might work, is to have a separate gesture, to make VO spell back the word. That being said, I don't really what was wrong with the previous method. Where spellback would work the way it does now, but you would be able to disable and enable it within the settings.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benny Barber" <benny.barber55@...
To: alpha@flicktype.groups.io
Date sent: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 07:40:12 -0500
Subject: Re: [FlickType-alpha] Build 151


Kosta,
To clarify my issue with the spellback feature. I like the spellback feature, but having spellback on when you flick right to space kind of interrupts my typing if I hesitate just a bit. I would like to have 2 options for spellback. the first option would be to have spellback on in all scenarios of spacing, advancing by word and flicking through alternative words. The second option would be to have spellback on in just advancing by word and flicking through alternative words; having spellback off while spacing. Just my opinion. Thanks.
Benny

On Aug 10, 2018, at 2:20 PM, FlickType <@FlickType> wrote:

What's new:
- Reading back your text with a 3-finger press can now also be done with 2-fingers. This should allow Accessibility Zoom users to utilize this feature, which previously conflicted with the zoom gestures.
- Words will now also be spelled after moving the cursor.
- Added voice feedback when VoiceOver is disabled.
- Add setting to toggle "Voice Feedback", enabled by default.
- Fixed dictionary capitalization issue for automatically added words. Thanks David!
- Gesture bugfixes.

Previously:
- You can now use your existing iOS text replacement shortcuts with FlickType. Configure text replacements from iOS Settings, General, Keyboard, Text Replacement. If you tap-type the shortcut, it will automatically be expanded into its phrase. If you type it accurately by touch-typing each letter, you'll need to flick down to expand it. Replacement shortcuts can only contain letters, but expanded phrases can be anything, including numbers, symbols, spaces, and even emoji. Be creative, smile! Please note: the replacements don't work inside the container app due to iOS limitations.









Re: Build 151

Ed Worrell
 

Hello

I agree as well. I would like to see a gesture to have the word spelled back to me. I usually type enough that the spelling doesn't get in the way. It can get annoying if you have to take a small pause to think before you type a word.

Thanks and great job with the last couple of builds.

Ed Worrell

On Aug 12, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Sharon Kim <sharon.mi.kim22@...> wrote:

I absolutely agree with Benny herre.
Another thing that might work, is to have a separate gesture, to make VO spell back the word. That being said, I don't really what was wrong with the previous method. Where spellback would work the way it does now, but you would be able to disable and enable it within the settings.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benny Barber" <benny.barber55@...
To: alpha@flicktype.groups.io
Date sent: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 07:40:12 -0500
Subject: Re: [FlickType-alpha] Build 151


Kosta,
To clarify my issue with the spellback feature. I like the spellback feature, but having spellback on when you flick right to space kind of interrupts my typing if I hesitate just a bit. I would like to have 2 options for spellback. the first option would be to have spellback on in all scenarios of spacing, advancing by word and flicking through alternative words. The second option would be to have spellback on in just advancing by word and flicking through alternative words; having spellback off while spacing. Just my opinion. Thanks.
Benny

On Aug 10, 2018, at 2:20 PM, FlickType <@FlickType> wrote:

What's new:
- Reading back your text with a 3-finger press can now also be done with 2-fingers. This should allow Accessibility Zoom users to utilize this feature, which previously conflicted with the zoom gestures.
- Words will now also be spelled after moving the cursor.
- Added voice feedback when VoiceOver is disabled.
- Add setting to toggle "Voice Feedback", enabled by default.
- Fixed dictionary capitalization issue for automatically added words. Thanks David!
- Gesture bugfixes.

Previously:
- You can now use your existing iOS text replacement shortcuts with FlickType. Configure text replacements from iOS Settings, General, Keyboard, Text Replacement. If you tap-type the shortcut, it will automatically be expanded into its phrase. If you type it accurately by touch-typing each letter, you'll need to flick down to expand it. Replacement shortcuts can only contain letters, but expanded phrases can be anything, including numbers, symbols, spaces, and even emoji. Be creative, smile! Please note: the replacements don't work inside the container app due to iOS limitations.








Re: Build 151

Sharon Kim
 

I absolutely agree with Benny herre.
Another thing that might work, is to have a separate gesture, to make VO spell back the word. That being said, I don't really what was wrong with the previous method. Where spellback would work the way it does now, but you would be able to disable and enable it within the settings.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benny Barber" <benny.barber55@...
To: alpha@flicktype.groups.io
Date sent: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 07:40:12 -0500
Subject: Re: [FlickType-alpha] Build 151


Kosta,
To clarify my issue with the spellback feature. I like the spellback feature, but having spellback on when you flick right to space kind of interrupts my typing if I hesitate just a bit. I would like to have 2 options for spellback. the first option would be to have spellback on in all scenarios of spacing, advancing by word and flicking through alternative words. The second option would be to have spellback on in just advancing by word and flicking through alternative words; having spellback off while spacing. Just my opinion. Thanks.
Benny

On Aug 10, 2018, at 2:20 PM, FlickType <@FlickType> wrote:

What's new:
- Reading back your text with a 3-finger press can now also be done with 2-fingers. This should allow Accessibility Zoom users to utilize this feature, which previously conflicted with the zoom gestures.
- Words will now also be spelled after moving the cursor.
- Added voice feedback when VoiceOver is disabled.
- Add setting to toggle "Voice Feedback", enabled by default.
- Fixed dictionary capitalization issue for automatically added words. Thanks David!
- Gesture bugfixes.

Previously:
- You can now use your existing iOS text replacement shortcuts with FlickType. Configure text replacements from iOS Settings, General, Keyboard, Text Replacement. If you tap-type the shortcut, it will automatically be expanded into its phrase. If you type it accurately by touch-typing each letter, you'll need to flick down to expand it. Replacement shortcuts can only contain letters, but expanded phrases can be anything, including numbers, symbols, spaces, and even emoji. Be creative, smile! Please note: the replacements don't work inside the container app due to iOS limitations.

Build 151, running good.

Chuck Dean
 

Hello Kosta,
I just wanted to check in and let you know all is running well.
Something I noticed in the last couple of builds is the lack of red screens. Did you remove this feature, or is FlickType running that well?

Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

Re: Build 151

Benny Barber
 

Kosta,
To clarify my issue with the spellback feature. I like the spellback feature, but having spellback on when you flick right to space kind of interrupts my typing if I hesitate just a bit. I would like to have 2 options for spellback. the first option would be to have spellback on in all scenarios of spacing, advancing by word and flicking through alternative words. The second option would be to have spellback on in just advancing by word and flicking through alternative words; having spellback off while spacing. Just my opinion. Thanks.
Benny

On Aug 10, 2018, at 2:20 PM, FlickType <@FlickType> wrote:

What's new:
- Reading back your text with a 3-finger press can now also be done with 2-fingers. This should allow Accessibility Zoom users to utilize this feature, which previously conflicted with the zoom gestures.
- Words will now also be spelled after moving the cursor.
- Added voice feedback when VoiceOver is disabled.
- Add setting to toggle "Voice Feedback", enabled by default.
- Fixed dictionary capitalization issue for automatically added words. Thanks David!
- Gesture bugfixes.

Previously:
- You can now use your existing iOS text replacement shortcuts with FlickType. Configure text replacements from iOS Settings, General, Keyboard, Text Replacement. If you tap-type the shortcut, it will automatically be expanded into its phrase. If you type it accurately by touch-typing each letter, you'll need to flick down to expand it. Replacement shortcuts can only contain letters, but expanded phrases can be anything, including numbers, symbols, spaces, and even emoji. Be creative, smile! Please note: the replacements don't work inside the container app due to iOS limitations.


Re: Build 151

Macster
 

Hi Kosta,

Good job on the capitalisation of words automatically entered into the dictionary. I've tested this a few times and it works very well. The two finger gesture to read is great as well, though I don't have zoom enabled. I like each word being spelled out when reviewing text as well. And I could be wrong, but it just feels a little more crisp on this build which is nice.

Macky

On 10 Aug 2018, at 20:20, FlickType <@FlickType> wrote:

What's new:
- Reading back your text with a 3-finger press can now also be done with 2-fingers. This should allow Accessibility Zoom users to utilize this feature, which previously conflicted with the zoom gestures.
- Words will now also be spelled after moving the cursor.
- Added voice feedback when VoiceOver is disabled.
- Add setting to toggle "Voice Feedback", enabled by default.
- Fixed dictionary capitalization issue for automatically added words. Thanks David!
- Gesture bugfixes.

Previously:
- You can now use your existing iOS text replacement shortcuts with FlickType. Configure text replacements from iOS Settings, General, Keyboard, Text Replacement. If you tap-type the shortcut, it will automatically be expanded into its phrase. If you type it accurately by touch-typing each letter, you'll need to flick down to expand it. Replacement shortcuts can only contain letters, but expanded phrases can be anything, including numbers, symbols, spaces, and even emoji. Be creative, smile! Please note: the replacements don't work inside the container app due to iOS limitations.


Test

Benny Barber
 

Test with knew email address.

Re: Build 151

Benny Barber
 

Kosta, thanks for adding the spell back by word, but I would like to be able to disable the spell back when typing and only have spell back when advancing by word. Thanks.
Benny

On Aug 10, 2018, at 2:20 PM, FlickType <@FlickType> wrote:

What's new:
- Reading back your text with a 3-finger press can now also be done with 2-fingers. This should allow Accessibility Zoom users to utilize this feature, which previously conflicted with the zoom gestures.
- Words will now also be spelled after moving the cursor.
- Added voice feedback when VoiceOver is disabled.
- Add setting to toggle "Voice Feedback", enabled by default.
- Fixed dictionary capitalization issue for automatically added words. Thanks David!
- Gesture bugfixes.

Previously:
- You can now use your existing iOS text replacement shortcuts with FlickType. Configure text replacements from iOS Settings, General, Keyboard, Text Replacement. If you tap-type the shortcut, it will automatically be expanded into its phrase. If you type it accurately by touch-typing each letter, you'll need to flick down to expand it. Replacement shortcuts can only contain letters, but expanded phrases can be anything, including numbers, symbols, spaces, and even emoji. Be creative, smile! Please note: the replacements don't work inside the container app due to iOS limitations.


Re: Build 151

George Cham
 

Hi costa, build 151 is not available in TestFlight.

Kind Regards,

George Cham

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From: alpha@flicktype.groups.io <alpha@flicktype.groups.io> on behalf of FlickType <hello@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 5:20:42 AM
To: alpha@flicktype.groups.io
Subject: [FlickType-alpha] Build 151
 
What's new:
- Reading back your text with a 3-finger press can now also be done with 2-fingers. This should allow Accessibility Zoom users to utilize this feature, which previously conflicted with the zoom gestures.
- Words will now also be spelled after moving the cursor.
- Added voice feedback when VoiceOver is disabled.
- Add setting to toggle "Voice Feedback", enabled by default.
- Fixed dictionary capitalization issue for automatically added words. Thanks David!
- Gesture bugfixes.

Previously:
- You can now use your existing iOS text replacement shortcuts with FlickType. Configure text replacements from iOS Settings, General, Keyboard, Text Replacement. If you tap-type the shortcut, it will automatically be expanded into its phrase. If you type it accurately by touch-typing each letter, you'll need to flick down to expand it. Replacement shortcuts can only contain letters, but expanded phrases can be anything, including numbers, symbols, spaces, and even emoji. Be creative, smile! Please note: the replacements don't work inside the container app due to iOS limitations.



Build 151

 

What's new:
- Reading back your text with a 3-finger press can now also be done with 2-fingers. This should allow Accessibility Zoom users to utilize this feature, which previously conflicted with the zoom gestures.
- Words will now also be spelled after moving the cursor.
- Added voice feedback when VoiceOver is disabled.
- Add setting to toggle "Voice Feedback", enabled by default.
- Fixed dictionary capitalization issue for automatically added words. Thanks David!
- Gesture bugfixes.

Previously:
- You can now use your existing iOS text replacement shortcuts with FlickType. Configure text replacements from iOS Settings, General, Keyboard, Text Replacement. If you tap-type the shortcut, it will automatically be expanded into its phrase. If you type it accurately by touch-typing each letter, you'll need to flick down to expand it. Replacement shortcuts can only contain letters, but expanded phrases can be anything, including numbers, symbols, spaces, and even emoji. Be creative, smile! Please note: the replacements don't work inside the container app due to iOS limitations.

Re: Build 150 message bug?

Rocco Fiorentino
 


I've had this same bug happen to me, with iOS 12 and the reduced height setting turned on, because of what's app. Its happened so many times that I can't use FlickType in messages or in the notification extension widget without switching to another keyboard, instead of simply dismissing the keyboard. 


On Aug 7, 2018, at 10:53 PM, FlickType <hello@...> wrote:

Chuck, we have a similar bug report in the beta channel when using iOS 12 and in combination with the reduced height workaround setting. Is any of that true in your case too?

- Kosta