Re: A test with Fleksy.

Paul Sutton

Hi chuck, I totally agree with you. Perhaps at some point in the future it might be possible to adjust the size of the FlickType keyboard. Just for example have it filling maybe 75% of the screen which would give the user just a little more room to play with but still giving enough room to navigate text fields. Or perhaps even giving the user the ability to adjust the keyboard to the size that they are most comfortable with. 
Regards, Paul

On 20 May 2018, at 22:27, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:

Hi Paul,
Yes, that’s very understandable that a totally blind person would have much more problems with half screen keyboard then with the whole screen keyboard. I think this is why the full screen keyboard was initially invented.
I guess this is why we need more than one keyboard.
Although, a partially sighted person could also use a full screen keyboard, so I think the best route is to work with full screen keyboard now, and perhaps in the future go with half screen keyboard.


On May 20, 2018, at 2:24 PM, Paul Sutton <sutty_p@...> wrote:

Out of curiosity I just installed Fleksy and had a quick go. I found it incredibly difficult because I was trying really hard not to tap above the Fleksy keyboard so as a consequence my typing was terrible and messy. 
I can however understand the benefits from having a half screen keyboard from the point of view that it would be a lot more easy to fill in multiple text fields. 
By the way, I am writing this from the view of a totally blind user. 
Regards, Paul.

On 20 May 2018, at 22:02, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:

If I may chime in here, 

I like the rotor because it is familiar to me and is used in other situations, so I also like the consistency of the controls. I sometimes get frustrated because I have forgotten a basic gesture and have screwed up my typing. 

But the reason I like the Fleksy minimal keyboard is, for instance, if I am composing an email, first I enter the recipient, then I can double tap in the subject field and type in the  subject of the email, then I can double tap on the text body and start typing, all without having to change keyboards or doing a dismiss. The same is true when sending a text message. 

I understand you like the words being visible on the top half of the screen, and it is pretty cool, but my sad eyes wouldn't use this feature very much and I'd prefer to have the interaction with the iPhone's screen.,  


On May 20, 2018, at 12:30 PM, FlickType <hello@...> wrote:

Thank you Ed, that does clear it up. Aside from the unbeatable aspect that the standard VoiceOver cursor mechanism is familiar, can you describe in more detail what aspects of it you prefer over the gesture control in FlickType?


On May 20, 2018, at 12:16, Ed Worrell <ed.worrell@...> wrote:


all of the basic gestures are the same between FlickType and Fleksy. I guess I was more referring to the difference between the default iOS keyboard. And Fleksy. Not to take anything away from your cursor control but I prefer using the VoiceOver rotor with the half screen keyboard. I just feel that the simpler you can make the gestures the better it will be for all users. With Fleksy in the minimum style keyboard the gestures are very simple and straight forward. The only thing I am missing is the ability to quickly switch between modes such as symbols and numbers. I hope this clears up my previous email... 


On May 20, 2018, at 1:07 PM, FlickType <hello@...> wrote:

Ed, you mentioned: “The typing is so much easier and quicker for me with the gestures I forgive the stutter with VoiceOver.”  

What gestures are you referring to that are not available in FlickType? Are you talking about the new line?


On May 20, 2018, at 12:04, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:

Hi Ed, thanks, I'll try it once I turn on Fleksy again. I don't like having more than two keyboards active at a time.


On May 20, 2018, at 11:37 AM, Ed Worrell <ed.worrell@...> wrote:


try performing a two finger flick down in the bottom right hand corner. This should insert a new line. 


On May 20, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Chuck Dean <cadean329@...> wrote:


u Kosta, i went back and downloaded Fleksy again to see how it interacts with the iOS screen. As i an typing this, i an using the Fleksy minimal keyboard. The keyboard is the bottom half of the screen, and i can interact with all the nails text fields and i can use the rotor Tu move the cursor where i want. The predictive engine doesn't seem as good, it has a stutter when announcing words, and there is no good way to insert a new line. Also, changing keyboards is a nightmare, having to change to the spacebar keyboard first, then using the globe button to select a keyboard. My pointr is, this would be the perfect keyboard layout, for me anyways, and is what i mean by a half screen keyboard. Plus i can easily input my text replacements. 😎 👍 

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